[Grem] A francia szenátus betiltja az életpárti honlapokat - French Senate Passes Pro-Life Website Ban

Emoke Greschik greschem at gmail.com
2016. Dec. 15., Cs, 13:08:43 CET


Kedves Lali bĂĄcsi!
Itt az idevågó magyar nyelvƱ cikk:


Ön francia, Ă©s abortuszellenes honlapot mƱködtet? KĂ©t Ă©v börtönt kaphat!
<http://csalad.mandiner.hu/cikk/20161209_szonyi_szilard_on_francia_es_abortuszellenes_honlapot_mukodtet_ket_ev_bortont_kaphat>
http://csalad.mandiner.hu/cikk/20161209_szonyi_szilard_on_francia_es_abortuszellenes_honlapot_mukodtet_ket_ev_bortont_kaphat

*A francia szocialista kormĂĄny bĂŒntethetƑvĂ© akarja tenni* *azokat a
weboldalakat, amelyek *– vĂ©lemĂ©nyĂŒk szerint –* pszicholĂłgiai vagy erkölcsi
nyomĂĄst gyakorolnak a nƑkre, hogy ne vessenek vĂ©get terhessĂ©gĂŒknek. *

*„»Harminc Ă©vvel ezelƑtt a tĂŒntetƑk a csalĂĄdtervezĂ©si klinikĂĄk kapujĂĄhoz
lĂĄncoltĂĄk magukat (...). Ma a következƑ nemzedĂ©k online folytatja ezt a
csatĂĄt« – jelentette ki nemrĂ©g a nƑk jogaiĂ©rt felelƑs csalĂĄdĂŒgyi miniszter
FranciaorszĂĄgban. *

*Laurence Rossignol szerint mindenki szabadon nyilvĂĄnĂ­thatja ki
ellenvéleményét az abortuszról, ha azt tisztességesen teszi, de a
véleményszabadsågot nem szabad összekeverni måsok manipulåciójåval. A
politikus annak apropĂłjĂĄn mondta ezt, hogy a szocialista kormĂĄny
bĂŒntethetƑvĂ© akarja tenni azokat a weboldalakat, amelyek – vĂ©lemĂ©nyĂŒk
szerint – pszicholĂłgiai vagy erkölcsi nyomĂĄst gyakorolnak a nƑkre, hogy ne
vessenek vĂ©get terhessĂ©gĂŒknek. A Magyar KurĂ­r katolikus hĂ­rĂŒgynöksĂ©g
tudĂłsĂ­tĂĄsa szerint a bĂŒntetĂ©s akĂĄr kĂ©t Ă©v börtön Ă©s 30 ezer eurĂłs
pénzbírsåg is lehet.*

*Georges Pontier, a Francia Katolikus PĂŒspöki Konferencia elnöke levĂ©lben
fejezte ki aggodalmait François Hollande elnöknek. Arra kĂ©rte az ĂĄllamfƑt,
ne engedje, hogy a törvĂ©nyjavaslat ĂĄtmenjen, mert az sĂșlyosan sĂ©rtenĂ© a
demokratikus alapelveket. A törvényjavaslatot a francia szenåtusnak is el
kellene fogadnia, mely tavaly mĂĄr egyszer megakadĂĄlyozta ugyanezt.*

*Idén januårban több hírportål megírta: az Hollande-adminisztråciót
felbosszantotta, hogy a francia kormĂĄny abortuszpĂĄrti weboldalĂĄt, minden
hivatalos felszólamlås ellenére, a Google håtrébb rangsorolta, mint az
ivg.net <http://ivg.net> Ă©letvĂ©dƑ honlapot. UtĂłbbi oldal neve az abortusz
eufemisztikus francia elnevezésének rövidítése (Interruption volontaire de
grossesse – „a terhessĂ©g önkĂ©ntes megszakĂ­tĂĄsa”); Ă©s amikor a francia
felhasznĂĄlĂłk az ivg betƱszĂłra keresnek rĂĄ, az elsƑ talĂĄlat az Ă©letvĂ©dƑ
honlap, mely jogi Ă©s egĂ©szsĂ©gĂŒgyi informĂĄciĂłt nyĂșjt az abortuszrĂłl,
beleértve az azzal jåró pszichológiai és fizikai veszélyeket, illetve a
gyermeknevelĂ©shez igĂ©nybe vehetƑ tĂĄmogatĂĄsi formĂĄkat.*
*A mĂșlt hĂ©ten egyĂ©bkĂ©nt arrĂłl adtunk hĂ­rt
<http://csalad.mandiner.hu/cikk/20161202_szonyi_szilard_abortuszellenesnek_belyegeztek_pedig_valasztasparti?utm_source=mandiner&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=mandiner_csalad_201612>,
hogy a francia Államtanåcs betiltott egy, a Down-szindrómås gyermekek
Ă©letesĂ©lyeirƑl szĂłlĂł kampĂĄnyfilmet, mert Ășgy Ă­tĂ©lte meg, hogy az
lelkiismeret-furdalĂĄst okozhat a fogyatĂ©kos magzatukat elvetetƑ nƑknek.”*



   - VĂĄlasz.hu SzƑnyi SzilĂĄrd: Ön francia, Ă©s abortuszellenes honlapot
   mƱködtet? Két év börtönt kaphat!
   <http://valasz.hu/vilag/on-francia-es-abortuszellenes-honlapot-mukodtet-ket-ev-bortont-kaphat-121681?utm_source=mandiner&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=mandiner_csalad_201612>



On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Emoke Greschik <greschem at gmail.com> wrote:

> Kedves Lali bĂĄcsi!
> Itt van az idevĂĄgĂł magyar cikk:
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Lajos dr VĂĄn <lajosvan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Én az igazat megvallva nem is nĂ©ztem, de klikkeltem a fordĂ­tĂĄsra Ă©s az
>> nekem hasznĂĄlhatatlan volt. Az is igaz, hogy nekem seckĂł jednĂł, hogy gall
>> vagy brit. BĂĄtyĂĄd.
>>
>> 2016-12-13 15:13 GMT+01:00 KEA <kea at turul.banki.hu>:
>>
>>> Kedves BĂĄttya!
>>>
>>> Sajnos nem volt idƑm az egĂ©sz cikket lefordĂ­tani, csak az elsƑ -- igen
>>> rövid -- bekezdését. Nem mintha én tudnék franciåul, a cikk angol.
>>>
>>> Köszönöm szĂ©pen a jĂłkĂ­vĂĄnsĂĄgot, Ășgy legyen!
>>>
>>> Puszi:
>>> AndrĂĄska.
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2016 06:14 AM, Lajos dr VĂĄn wrote:
>>> > Kedves ÖcsĂ©m-Uram!
>>> > Sajnos nem tudok franciĂĄul.
>>> > Leveled olvasĂĄsakor - a hasznĂĄlhatatlan nyers fordĂ­tĂĄsra gondolok-
>>> > szomorkodtam el magamon, magunkon.Így utólag kívánunk egyik Ƒseid
>>> > földjĂ©rƑl Boldog AndrĂĄs napok utĂĄniakat.(NAPOKAT, heteket, hĂłnapokat,
>>> > éveket.....)
>>> > Båtyådék.
>>> >
>>> > 2016-12-11 7:53 GMT+01:00 KEA <kea at turul.banki.hu
>>> > <mailto:kea at turul.banki.hu>>:
>>> >
>>> >     A francia szenåtus szerdån elfogadott egy törvényjavaslatot, ami
>>> alapjĂĄn
>>> >     bƱncselekmény életpårti informåciókat közzétenni az interneten.
>>> >
>>> >     * * *
>>> >
>>> >     French Senate Passes Pro-Life Website Ban
>>> >     Bill could be used to restrict churches from teaching about
>>> abortion
>>> >
>>> >     Washington Free Beacon, 2016.12.07. -- Bill McMorris
>>> >     http://freebeacon.com/issues/french-senate-passes-pro-life-
>>> website-ban/
>>> >     <http://freebeacon.com/issues/french-senate-passes-pro-
>>> life-website-ban/>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     The French Senate adopted a bill that will make it a crime to post
>>> >     pro-life information on the internet on Wednesday.
>>> >
>>> >     The Senate voted 173-126 to approve legislation that will make it a
>>> >     crime for any website to publish material at odds with the nation’s
>>> >     abortion regime. The legislation, which passed the French National
>>> >     Assembly on Dec. 1, will prosecute pro-life activists for
>>> “exercising,
>>> >     by any mean, moral and psychological pressures, threats or any act
>>> of
>>> >     intimidation against people seeking information on a voluntarily
>>> >     termination of pregnancy.”
>>> >
>>> >     Sen. Francoise Laborde, a member of France’s Radical Party of the
>>> Left,
>>> >     said during debate that pro-life websites constituted “horrors and
>>> lies”
>>> >     and should be prevented from operating. The bill targets those who
>>> >     operate pro-life websites or provide information about abortion
>>> >     alternatives. Violators will face up to two years in prison and
>>> $30,000
>>> >     in fines.
>>> >
>>> >     The Senate approved an amendment that appears to soften the ban by
>>> >     removing “in a dissuasive aim” from the text of the Assembly bill.
>>> On
>>> >     paper, that amendment will punish “misinformation,” while allowing
>>> >     pro-life activists to attempt to persuade women against abortion.
>>> >
>>> >     GrĂ©gor Puppinck said the Senate bill “is better writing, but not
>>> better
>>> >     substance.” It will do little to protect the free speech rights of
>>> >     pro-life activists because the amended language continues to bar
>>> “moral
>>> >     and psychological pressure,” a vague term that leaves pro-lifers
>>> >     vulnerable to accusations from pro-abortion activists.
>>> >
>>> >     “Publishing the Christian teaching that abortion is a crime could
>>> be
>>> >     seen as putting pressure on people,” he said. “The simple sharing
>>> of
>>> >     information that might upset moral conscience could be sufficient
>>> to
>>> >     constitute a crime.”
>>> >
>>> >     Puppinck is the director of the European Centre for Law and
>>> Justice. He
>>> >     said that the wording of the law could extend from explicitly
>>> pro-life
>>> >     activist groups and websites and eventually include entire
>>> religions.
>>> >     The Catechism of the Catholic Church, the guiding document for
>>> France’s
>>> >     largest religion, calls abortion a “moral evil,” adding that “this
>>> >     teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.” Since the
>>> Catholic
>>> >     clergy in France cannot change the teaching, they would have to
>>> remain
>>> >     silent on the subject or face penalties for communicating its
>>> position
>>> >     that abortion is “gravely contrary to the moral law.”
>>> >
>>> >     “This law may prohibit the church from publishing its position on
>>> >     abortion. If you teach that it is a sin then teaching itself would
>>> be
>>> >     sufficient for prosecution,” he said.
>>> >
>>> >     The Senate and National Assembly will now enter a process to
>>> reconcile
>>> >     the original and amended bills. The National Assembly will have the
>>> >     final decision on which bill to advance to Socialist President
>>> François
>>> >     Hollande—a vote that is expected to occur in the coming weeks.
>>> >
>>> >     Pro-life activists intend to take the matter to France and the
>>> European
>>> >     Union’s highest courts if necessary. A coalition of 60 lawmakers
>>> who
>>> >     voted against the bill can ask France’s Constitutional Council to
>>> rule
>>> >     on the matter before Hollande, whose party championed the bill,
>>> can sign
>>> >     it. If that effort is not successful, Puppinck says that the
>>> European
>>> >     Centre for Law and Justice will take the case to the European
>>> Court of
>>> >     Human Rights.
>>> >
>>> >     He said that the court should follow in the footsteps of the United
>>> >     States Supreme Court, which unanimously struck down a law that
>>> prevented
>>> >     pro-lifers demonstrating outside of abortion clinic sidewalks in
>>> 2014.
>>> >
>>> >     “It’s a real limitation on free speech aimed at mainstreaming
>>> abortion,”
>>> >     Puppinck said. “We expect that this court, like the U.S. Supreme
>>> Court,
>>> >     will support freedom of speech and recognize that abortion is a
>>> public
>>> >     issue that has to be debated freely.”
>>> >
>>> >     Dr. Joseph Meaney, director of international coordination for the
>>> >     pro-life Human Life International, has been working in France over
>>> the
>>> >     course of the debate. He said that the Assembly and the Senate are
>>> >     attempting to limit the information that women debating abortion
>>> >     receive. The criminal penalties associated with espousing pro-life
>>> >     views, he said, were some of the most extreme actions taken by the
>>> >     abortion lobby.
>>> >
>>> >     “The main concern expressed was that women seeking abortion not be
>>> >     confronted with any pro-life information,” he said. “They are
>>> willing to
>>> >     make it a crime to have a pro-life website that seeks to help
>>> women not
>>> >     to abort.”
>>> >
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