[Grem] A francia szenátus betiltja az életpárti honlapokat - French Senate Passes Pro-Life Website Ban
Emoke Greschik
greschem at gmail.com
2016. Dec. 15., Cs, 13:08:43 CET
Kedves Lali bĂĄcsi!
Itt az idevågó magyar nyelvƱ cikk:
Ăn francia, Ă©s abortuszellenes honlapot mƱködtet? KĂ©t Ă©v börtönt kaphat!
<http://csalad.mandiner.hu/cikk/20161209_szonyi_szilard_on_francia_es_abortuszellenes_honlapot_mukodtet_ket_ev_bortont_kaphat>
http://csalad.mandiner.hu/cikk/20161209_szonyi_szilard_on_francia_es_abortuszellenes_honlapot_mukodtet_ket_ev_bortont_kaphat
*A francia szocialista kormĂĄny bĂŒntethetĆvĂ© akarja tenni* *azokat a
weboldalakat, amelyek *â vĂ©lemĂ©nyĂŒk szerint â* pszicholĂłgiai vagy erkölcsi
nyomĂĄst gyakorolnak a nĆkre, hogy ne vessenek vĂ©get terhessĂ©gĂŒknek. *
*â»Harminc Ă©vvel ezelĆtt a tĂŒntetĆk a csalĂĄdtervezĂ©si klinikĂĄk kapujĂĄhoz
lĂĄncoltĂĄk magukat (...). Ma a következĆ nemzedĂ©k online folytatja ezt a
csatĂĄt« â jelentette ki nemrĂ©g a nĆk jogaiĂ©rt felelĆs csalĂĄdĂŒgyi miniszter
FranciaorszĂĄgban. *
*Laurence Rossignol szerint mindenki szabadon nyilvĂĄnĂthatja ki
ellenvéleményét az abortuszról, ha azt tisztességesen teszi, de a
véleményszabadsågot nem szabad összekeverni måsok manipulåciójåval. A
politikus annak apropĂłjĂĄn mondta ezt, hogy a szocialista kormĂĄny
bĂŒntethetĆvĂ© akarja tenni azokat a weboldalakat, amelyek â vĂ©lemĂ©nyĂŒk
szerint â pszicholĂłgiai vagy erkölcsi nyomĂĄst gyakorolnak a nĆkre, hogy ne
vessenek vĂ©get terhessĂ©gĂŒknek. A Magyar KurĂr katolikus hĂrĂŒgynöksĂ©g
tudĂłsĂtĂĄsa szerint a bĂŒntetĂ©s akĂĄr kĂ©t Ă©v börtön Ă©s 30 ezer eurĂłs
pĂ©nzbĂrsĂĄg is lehet.*
*Georges Pontier, a Francia Katolikus PĂŒspöki Konferencia elnöke levĂ©lben
fejezte ki aggodalmait François Hollande elnöknek. Arra kĂ©rte az ĂĄllamfĆt,
ne engedje, hogy a törvĂ©nyjavaslat ĂĄtmenjen, mert az sĂșlyosan sĂ©rtenĂ© a
demokratikus alapelveket. A törvényjavaslatot a francia szenåtusnak is el
kellene fogadnia, mely tavaly mĂĄr egyszer megakadĂĄlyozta ugyanezt.*
*IdĂ©n januĂĄrban több hĂrportĂĄl megĂrta: az Hollande-adminisztrĂĄciĂłt
felbosszantotta, hogy a francia kormĂĄny abortuszpĂĄrti weboldalĂĄt, minden
hivatalos felszólamlås ellenére, a Google håtrébb rangsorolta, mint az
ivg.net <http://ivg.net> Ă©letvĂ©dĆ honlapot. UtĂłbbi oldal neve az abortusz
eufemisztikus francia elnevezĂ©sĂ©nek rövidĂtĂ©se (Interruption volontaire de
grossesse â âa terhessĂ©g önkĂ©ntes megszakĂtĂĄsaâ); Ă©s amikor a francia
felhasznĂĄlĂłk az ivg betƱszĂłra keresnek rĂĄ, az elsĆ talĂĄlat az Ă©letvĂ©dĆ
honlap, mely jogi Ă©s egĂ©szsĂ©gĂŒgyi informĂĄciĂłt nyĂșjt az abortuszrĂłl,
beleértve az azzal jåró pszichológiai és fizikai veszélyeket, illetve a
gyermeknevelĂ©shez igĂ©nybe vehetĆ tĂĄmogatĂĄsi formĂĄkat.*
*A mĂșlt hĂ©ten egyĂ©bkĂ©nt arrĂłl adtunk hĂrt
<http://csalad.mandiner.hu/cikk/20161202_szonyi_szilard_abortuszellenesnek_belyegeztek_pedig_valasztasparti?utm_source=mandiner&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=mandiner_csalad_201612>,
hogy a francia ĂllamtanĂĄcs betiltott egy, a Down-szindrĂłmĂĄs gyermekek
Ă©letesĂ©lyeirĆl szĂłlĂł kampĂĄnyfilmet, mert Ășgy ĂtĂ©lte meg, hogy az
lelkiismeret-furdalĂĄst okozhat a fogyatĂ©kos magzatukat elvetetĆ nĆknek.â*
- VĂĄlasz.hu SzĆnyi SzilĂĄrd: Ăn francia, Ă©s abortuszellenes honlapot
mƱködtet? Két év börtönt kaphat!
<http://valasz.hu/vilag/on-francia-es-abortuszellenes-honlapot-mukodtet-ket-ev-bortont-kaphat-121681?utm_source=mandiner&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=mandiner_csalad_201612>
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Emoke Greschik <greschem at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kedves Lali bĂĄcsi!
> Itt van az idevĂĄgĂł magyar cikk:
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Lajos dr VĂĄn <lajosvan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ăn az igazat megvallva nem is nĂ©ztem, de klikkeltem a fordĂtĂĄsra Ă©s az
>> nekem hasznĂĄlhatatlan volt. Az is igaz, hogy nekem seckĂł jednĂł, hogy gall
>> vagy brit. BĂĄtyĂĄd.
>>
>> 2016-12-13 15:13 GMT+01:00 KEA <kea at turul.banki.hu>:
>>
>>> Kedves BĂĄttya!
>>>
>>> Sajnos nem volt idĆm az egĂ©sz cikket lefordĂtani, csak az elsĆ -- igen
>>> rövid -- bekezdését. Nem mintha én tudnék franciåul, a cikk angol.
>>>
>>> Köszönöm szĂ©pen a jĂłkĂvĂĄnsĂĄgot, Ășgy legyen!
>>>
>>> Puszi:
>>> AndrĂĄska.
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2016 06:14 AM, Lajos dr VĂĄn wrote:
>>> > Kedves ĂcsĂ©m-Uram!
>>> > Sajnos nem tudok franciĂĄul.
>>> > Leveled olvasĂĄsakor - a hasznĂĄlhatatlan nyers fordĂtĂĄsra gondolok-
>>> > szomorkodtam el magamon, magunkon.Ăgy utĂłlag kĂvĂĄnunk egyik Ćseid
>>> > földjĂ©rĆl Boldog AndrĂĄs napok utĂĄniakat.(NAPOKAT, heteket, hĂłnapokat,
>>> > éveket.....)
>>> > Båtyådék.
>>> >
>>> > 2016-12-11 7:53 GMT+01:00 KEA <kea at turul.banki.hu
>>> > <mailto:kea at turul.banki.hu>>:
>>> >
>>> > A francia szenåtus szerdån elfogadott egy törvényjavaslatot, ami
>>> alapjĂĄn
>>> > bƱncselekmény életpårti informåciókat közzétenni az interneten.
>>> >
>>> > * * *
>>> >
>>> > French Senate Passes Pro-Life Website Ban
>>> > Bill could be used to restrict churches from teaching about
>>> abortion
>>> >
>>> > Washington Free Beacon, 2016.12.07. -- Bill McMorris
>>> > http://freebeacon.com/issues/french-senate-passes-pro-life-
>>> website-ban/
>>> > <http://freebeacon.com/issues/french-senate-passes-pro-
>>> life-website-ban/>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The French Senate adopted a bill that will make it a crime to post
>>> > pro-life information on the internet on Wednesday.
>>> >
>>> > The Senate voted 173-126 to approve legislation that will make it a
>>> > crime for any website to publish material at odds with the nationâs
>>> > abortion regime. The legislation, which passed the French National
>>> > Assembly on Dec. 1, will prosecute pro-life activists for
>>> âexercising,
>>> > by any mean, moral and psychological pressures, threats or any act
>>> of
>>> > intimidation against people seeking information on a voluntarily
>>> > termination of pregnancy.â
>>> >
>>> > Sen. Francoise Laborde, a member of Franceâs Radical Party of the
>>> Left,
>>> > said during debate that pro-life websites constituted âhorrors and
>>> liesâ
>>> > and should be prevented from operating. The bill targets those who
>>> > operate pro-life websites or provide information about abortion
>>> > alternatives. Violators will face up to two years in prison and
>>> $30,000
>>> > in fines.
>>> >
>>> > The Senate approved an amendment that appears to soften the ban by
>>> > removing âin a dissuasive aimâ from the text of the Assembly bill.
>>> On
>>> > paper, that amendment will punish âmisinformation,â while allowing
>>> > pro-life activists to attempt to persuade women against abortion.
>>> >
>>> > GrĂ©gor Puppinck said the Senate bill âis better writing, but not
>>> better
>>> > substance.â It will do little to protect the free speech rights of
>>> > pro-life activists because the amended language continues to bar
>>> âmoral
>>> > and psychological pressure,â a vague term that leaves pro-lifers
>>> > vulnerable to accusations from pro-abortion activists.
>>> >
>>> > âPublishing the Christian teaching that abortion is a crime could
>>> be
>>> > seen as putting pressure on people,â he said. âThe simple sharing
>>> of
>>> > information that might upset moral conscience could be sufficient
>>> to
>>> > constitute a crime.â
>>> >
>>> > Puppinck is the director of the European Centre for Law and
>>> Justice. He
>>> > said that the wording of the law could extend from explicitly
>>> pro-life
>>> > activist groups and websites and eventually include entire
>>> religions.
>>> > The Catechism of the Catholic Church, the guiding document for
>>> Franceâs
>>> > largest religion, calls abortion a âmoral evil,â adding that âthis
>>> > teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.â Since the
>>> Catholic
>>> > clergy in France cannot change the teaching, they would have to
>>> remain
>>> > silent on the subject or face penalties for communicating its
>>> position
>>> > that abortion is âgravely contrary to the moral law.â
>>> >
>>> > âThis law may prohibit the church from publishing its position on
>>> > abortion. If you teach that it is a sin then teaching itself would
>>> be
>>> > sufficient for prosecution,â he said.
>>> >
>>> > The Senate and National Assembly will now enter a process to
>>> reconcile
>>> > the original and amended bills. The National Assembly will have the
>>> > final decision on which bill to advance to Socialist President
>>> François
>>> > Hollandeâa vote that is expected to occur in the coming weeks.
>>> >
>>> > Pro-life activists intend to take the matter to France and the
>>> European
>>> > Unionâs highest courts if necessary. A coalition of 60 lawmakers
>>> who
>>> > voted against the bill can ask Franceâs Constitutional Council to
>>> rule
>>> > on the matter before Hollande, whose party championed the bill,
>>> can sign
>>> > it. If that effort is not successful, Puppinck says that the
>>> European
>>> > Centre for Law and Justice will take the case to the European
>>> Court of
>>> > Human Rights.
>>> >
>>> > He said that the court should follow in the footsteps of the United
>>> > States Supreme Court, which unanimously struck down a law that
>>> prevented
>>> > pro-lifers demonstrating outside of abortion clinic sidewalks in
>>> 2014.
>>> >
>>> > âItâs a real limitation on free speech aimed at mainstreaming
>>> abortion,â
>>> > Puppinck said. âWe expect that this court, like the U.S. Supreme
>>> Court,
>>> > will support freedom of speech and recognize that abortion is a
>>> public
>>> > issue that has to be debated freely.â
>>> >
>>> > Dr. Joseph Meaney, director of international coordination for the
>>> > pro-life Human Life International, has been working in France over
>>> the
>>> > course of the debate. He said that the Assembly and the Senate are
>>> > attempting to limit the information that women debating abortion
>>> > receive. The criminal penalties associated with espousing pro-life
>>> > views, he said, were some of the most extreme actions taken by the
>>> > abortion lobby.
>>> >
>>> > âThe main concern expressed was that women seeking abortion not be
>>> > confronted with any pro-life information,â he said. âThey are
>>> willing to
>>> > make it a crime to have a pro-life website that seeks to help
>>> women not
>>> > to abort.â
>>> >
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