[Grem] Ukraine vs. Egypt ("MUST read" E.Cs.)

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Ukraine vs. Egypt ("MUST read" E.Cs.)

http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/

*Though I've never been to Ukraine or Russia before but the minute I
started following the news of the huge protests in Kiev, I felt like I was
somehow connected /related in a strange way to this Ukrainian revolution.*

This whole revolution thing sounded not so unfamiliar to me.

As days went by and as the violence and the smoke that came out of the
heavily fortified Maidan/independence square got heavier I thought I was
looking at a retrospective of the Egyptian revolution with all the violent
clashes that took place in Tahrir Square during the winter of 2011-2012.

My Egyptian eyes were following the fluid situation in Kiev with a funny
sense of uneasy prediction. I felt like I knew how things were going to
unfold in that Ukrainian scene, simply because I had seen it happen before
in my own country, Egypt.

Of course I know that because we had a recent revolution in Egypt doesn't
necessarily make it the blueprint for all revolutions to follow across the
globe.

But the way things evolved inside Independence Square and the pattern of
violence and chaos that ensued around Ukraine left me in no doubt.
[image: The same illustrated flyer was handed out to Egyptian and Ukrainian
protesters, it reads "Essential clothing and gears for violent
protests".]<http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/kiev-cairo-pamphlets-1.jpg>

An illustrated flyer that was handed out to Egyptian and Ukrainian
protesters, it reads "Essential clothing and gears for violent protests".

I mean even the pamphlets
<http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread987691/pg1>handed out to the
Ukrainian protesters to instruct them on how to protect themselves from the
tear gas beside other combat precautions were the same handed out to the
Egyptian protesters in Tahrir square only the illustration language was
different.

*Clearly*, I was watching the Ukrainian version of the Tahrir Square
revolution.   Is it a coincidence? Is it only my imagination?  ... I don't
think so.

Every day I followed the Ukrainian news with a silly grin on my face for I
knew, beforehand, what the headlines were going to be.

I knew that whoever called for the protests are groups of so called
political activists, very active on the internet social media sites.
[image: Srdja Popovic]<http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/srdja-popovic.jpg>

Srdja Popovic

Of course those activists have strong links to western NGOs and so called
freedom organizations. And also some of the leaders of those activists have
been trained <http://www.voltairenet.org/article182058.html>in Europe on
how to launch mass protests.

Also Egyptian activists who sparked the first mass protests on January 25
2011, like April 6th movement <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhUfFyS1FkM>,
have been trained by Srđa
Popović<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sr%C4%91a_Popovi%C4%87>,
a Serbian activist who's been cooperating with US intelligence companies in
clandestine missions .

Popovic is the leader of the student movement Otpor
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otpor%21>that helped topple Serbian
president *Slobodan
Milošević*. He is also the director of Centre for Applied Nonviolent Action
and Strategies (CANVAS<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_Applied_Nonviolent_Action_and_Strategies>)
which is very active in Eastern European countries including Ukraine.

They are even trained on how to exploit all kinds of media to spread
their disingenuous message internationally - like this interesting video of
a Ukrainian beauty fighting for
freedom<http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/#>and
struggling for western democracy from inside Independence Square.

*The* woman's call for world solidarity, that went viral on YouTube, is
carefully edited to portray the Ukrainians as if they were resisting
another Nazi occupation where in fact they were being deluded by the phony
glare of US/EU dream.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hvds2AIiWLA>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA

Ukrainian protesters dreamed of Europe's
freedom<http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/#>and
prosperity when Europe had actually nothing for them except bailout
and
long term chain of indebtedness.

I knew that all it took for the rallies to swell was controlled violence.

It only takes a couple of dramatic photos and some video footage of
protesters being attacked and brutalized by police forces to be posted on
the internet. And that's it; you have a revolution on the go.

But what this whole thing needed to turn into another Tahrir Square, with
Mubarak/ Yanukovych kicked out of power was a nice score of protesters
gunned down by what should look as police snipers.

*According to the Arab Spring's manual; Rallies turn into a revolution only
when someone amongst the protesters gets killed.*

So I knew that the protests wouldn't stay peaceful for long; I knew that
the Maidan would be targeted by professional snipers, and that the
protesters would respond with raids of Molotov cocktail.

Day after day the violent protests in Kiev began to blow way out of
proportion. It was hard to believe that this thing first erupted over
signing some trade deal.

As Putin
<http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/citing-coup-in-ukraine-putin-reserves-right-to-use-force/>put
it "the Maidan protests was turning into an orgy of ultranationalists, far
right radicals and neo-Nazis wearing Swastika arm bands"

Likewise, Egyptian protests have been hijacked by Radical Salafists,
Afghanistan Jihadists and of course MB (mother ship of all Islamist
terrorist groups worldwide)

*And ironically, in both the Egyptian and Ukrainian case, the US/EU have
supported the radicals and militants. Western democracy works in a really
mysterious way.*

[image: Kalashnikov-wielding protesters from Ukraine's radical nationalist
opposition group, Right
Sector.]<http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/kalashnikov-wielding-members-of-ukraine_s-radical-nationalist-opposition-group-right-sector.png>

Kalashnikov-wielding protesters from Ukraine's radical nationalist
opposition group, Right Sector.

By the way, real protesters and genuine freedom fighters never join rallies
and sit-ins carrying bottles of Molotov cocktail.

Gandhi or Guevara was never caught attacking or setting police stations
alight.

Whenever you spot firearms, Molotov cocktail bottles, or Kalashnikov
guns<http://rt.com/news/radical-opposition-intimidating-techniques-882/>and
daggers, as in the case of Kiev's protesters then we are watching not
a
peaceful march of democracy, as the American administration likes to call
it, but a remotely guided rebellion and so called creative chaos - courtesy
of Arab's beloved, Mrs. Condoleezza Rice.

*The thin red line*

You see, there is a line any freedom protesters shouldn't cross or even get
confused about. That line is the thin red one that separates the regime
from the state.

You have, as a political activist the right to criticize, denounce and even
call for the fall of any regime but you must do that while keeping away
from demolishing the pillars of the state you belong to and live in.

Taking down the regime is one thing, but demolishing the foundations of any
sovereign state is a totally different story.
[image: MB militias burned down Police stations all around Egypt few days
after the protests kicked off at Tahrir
Square]<http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/mb-burn-egypt-police-stations.jpg>

MB militias burned down Police stations all around Egypt few days after the
protests kicked off at Tahrir Square

Anti-regime protests are signs of vibrant democracy, but demolishing the
power of the police and military forces, and terrorizing the Judiciary
system and media institutions are grave symptoms of a nation sabotaged by 4
th generation warfare.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare>

People often wonder why Egyptians pulled out a second revolution against
Mohamed Morsi, the puppet of the International terrorist web of Muslim
Brotherhood (MB)

Well, after the MB had risen to power they simply and swiftly embarked on
demolishing the pillars of the Egyptian state and flagrantly replaced it
with MB figures and alternative institutions.

MB got away with hijacking the Egyptian revolution but they were stupid
enough to cross that thin red line.

Actually the revolutions that swept across the Arab World throughout the
last three years targeted not dictatorships but had one goal in focus,
demolishing and liquefying the major Arab countries - with the help of
elements of extremism and fragmentation, namely Jihadists, Salafis,
Takfiris and of course MB

*Unfortunately this is exactly where Ukraine is steadfastly headed - with
the stupid help of the far right
<http://www.channel4.com/news/kiev-svoboda-far-right-protests-right-sector-riot-police>and
the new Nazis.*

So I knew that hundreds in Kiev would be severely wounded and many killed ...
and most regrettably in vain.

I knew that organized gangs of ultra-nationalist militants, like gangs of
MB militants in Egypt did, would be ordered to move all around Ukraine and
target police headquarters, especially the anti-Riot security units and
special forces (Berkut <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkut_%28Ukraine%29>).

I knew that the Ukrainian police wouldn't be able to hold back for long and
that they would eventually fall and disappear leaving the city of Kiev and
all of Ukraine defenseless. And that is exactly what happened in Egypt
before.

Watch this video of violent Ukrainian protesters storming into a municipal
building and brutally attacking police forces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stK3YPz6WTc

I knew that after the security vacuum, the Ukrainian president would pack
up in a hurry and flee the country with his closest aides.

After weeks of escalating protests and violence Ukraine lay naked and
vulnerable, in the coldest days of a bitter winter, before the world to see
the game of creating chaos in the name of democracy at work ... once again.

*Russian spring*

I knew that nobody in Ukraine or Russia had seen this coming, simply
because this whole revolution business had been orchestrated from outside
the two countries.

I knew that this whole thing was nothing but the Arab spring's drones
targeted upwards.
[image: John McCain in Kiev's independence square with far-right opposition
leaders - December
2013]<http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/maccain-in-ukraine-1.jpg>

John McCain in Kiev's independence square with far-right opposition leaders
- December 2013

It was pre-planned not only because of years of preparatory work of the so
called western NGOs in Ukraine, or the American support for the fragile
opposition and the earlier and ominous visit and dinner with the beastly
John MaCcain, but actually because Russia was getting out of line ... once
again.

Hadn't been for the strong Putin and his intervention in the Middle East,
Syria and Iraq would have been history by now.

*If the devastation of the Arab Spring hadn't been somewhat curtailed by
Russia, or hadn't the US/Zionist conspiracy been exposed by the audacious
stance of the Egyptian military we would have been looking at a totally
different Middle East now - The so called new Middle East.*

I knew that this whole Ukrainian chaotic situation was not about
freedom<http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/#>or
democracy. It was not even about Ukraine in the first place. I knew
that
the Russian bear was the target of this "time for democracy in Ukraine -
stunt"

*I'm not trying to downplay the right of the Ukrainian or Egyptian peoples'
to protest and express their dissatisfaction over economic hardships and
political corruption. But I think we should look closer into who's steering
those revolutions into chaos and disintegration. We should also stop for a
while and ponder over the similar patterns of those recent uprisings.*

I knew that the US & EU would endorse the protesters' riot and violence
whilst presumptuously demanding the Russians to keep out of it.
[image: Vladimir Putin]<http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/putin.jpg>

Vladimir Putin, will he stay in control?

US and EU is also expecting the Kremlin to show self-restraint and abide by
international laws - the very same laws US trod over in Iraq and
Afghanistan and Syria -  otherwise they will consider kicking the Russian
bear out of the G8 and maybe deny Mosco the right to Veto at their
prestigious UN

But I think Self-restraint could sound obscenely ridiculous when asked of
some international power whose very national security and borders are being
under direct attack.

Besides any young politician around the world knows for a fact that Russia,
given the current geopolitics of the Ukrainian crisis, absolutely can't
afford to give up or get out of Crimea.

So, I believe we are all going to witness a very exciting and dangerous
spring.

... the Russian spring.
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