<div dir="ltr">Elizabeth Csordás, k.Lttagtól egy másik listáról<br><br>Ukraine vs. Egypt ("MUST read" E.Cs.)<br><br><a href="http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/">http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/</a><br>
<br><p><strong>Though I’ve never been to Ukraine or Russia before but the
minute I started following the news of the huge protests in Kiev, I felt
like I was somehow connected /related in a strange way to this
Ukrainian revolution.</strong></p>
<p>This whole revolution thing sounded not so unfamiliar to me.</p>
<p>As days went by and as the violence and the smoke that came out of
the heavily fortified Maidan/independence square got heavier I thought I
was looking at a retrospective of the Egyptian revolution with all the
violent clashes that took place in Tahrir Square during the winter of
2011-2012.</p>
<p>My Egyptian eyes were following the fluid situation in Kiev with a
funny sense of uneasy prediction. I felt like I knew how things were
going to unfold in that Ukrainian scene, simply because I had seen it
happen before in my own country, Egypt.</p>
<p>Of course I know that because we had a recent revolution in Egypt
doesn’t necessarily make it the blueprint for all revolutions to follow
across the globe.</p>
<p>But the way things evolved inside Independence Square and the pattern
of violence and chaos that ensued around Ukraine left me in no doubt.</p>
<div id="attachment_4405" style="width:310px" class=""><a href="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/kiev-cairo-pamphlets-1.jpg"><img class="" alt="The same illustrated flyer was handed out to Egyptian and Ukrainian protesters, it reads "Essential clothing and gears for violent protests". " src="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/kiev-cairo-pamphlets-1.jpg?w=300&h=180" height="180" width="300"></a><p class="">
An
illustrated flyer that was handed out to Egyptian and Ukrainian
protesters, it reads “Essential clothing and gears for violent
protests”.</p></div>
<p>I mean even the <a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread987691/pg1" target="_blank">pamphlets </a>handed
out to the Ukrainian protesters to instruct them on how to protect
themselves from the tear gas beside other combat precautions were the
same handed out to the Egyptian protesters in Tahrir square only the
illustration language was different.</p>
<p><strong>Clearly</strong>, I was watching the Ukrainian version of the
Tahrir Square revolution. Is it a coincidence? Is it only my
imagination? … I don’t think so.</p>
<p>Every day I followed the Ukrainian news with a silly grin on my face
for I knew, beforehand, what the headlines were going to be.</p>
<p>I knew that whoever called for the protests are groups of so called
political activists, very active on the internet social media sites.</p>
<div id="attachment_4441" style="width:250px" class=""><a href="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/srdja-popovic.jpg"><img class="" alt="Srdja Popovic" src="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/srdja-popovic.jpg?w=240&h=192" height="192" width="240"></a><p class="">
Srdja Popovic</p></div>
<p>Of course those activists have strong links to western NGOs and so
called freedom organizations. And also some of the leaders of those
activists have been <a href="http://www.voltairenet.org/article182058.html" target="_blank">trained </a>in Europe on how to launch mass protests.</p>
<p>Also Egyptian activists who sparked the first mass protests on January 25 2011, like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhUfFyS1FkM" target="_blank">April 6<sup>th</sup> movement</a>, have been trained by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sr%C4%91a_Popovi%C4%87" target="_blank">Srđa Popović</a>, a Serbian activist who’s been cooperating with US intelligence companies in clandestine missions .</p>
<p>Popovic is the leader of the student movement <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otpor%21" target="_blank">Otpor </a>that helped topple Serbian president <strong>Slobodan Milošević</strong>. He is also the director of Centre for Applied Nonviolent Action and Strategies (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_Applied_Nonviolent_Action_and_Strategies" target="_blank">CANVAS</a>) which is very active in Eastern European countries including Ukraine.</p>
<p>They are even trained on how to exploit all kinds of media to spread
their disingenuous message internationally – like this interesting video
of a Ukrainian beauty fighting for <a style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent!important;border:medium none!important;display:inline!important;float:none!important;height:auto!important;margin:0px!important;min-height:0px!important;min-width:0px!important;padding:0px!important;vertical-align:baseline!important;width:auto!important;text-decoration:underline!important" title="Click to Continue > by CouponDropDown" id="_GPLITA_0" href="http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/#">freedom<img style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent ! important; border: medium none ! important; display: inline ! important; float: none ! important; height: 10px ! important; margin: 0px 0px 0px 3px ! important; min-height: 0px ! important; min-width: 0px ! important; padding: 0px ! important; vertical-align: super ! important; width: 10px ! important;" src="http://cdncache1-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png"></a> and struggling for western democracy from inside Independence Square.</p>
<p><strong>The</strong> woman’s call for world solidarity, that went
viral on YouTube, is carefully edited to portray the Ukrainians as if
they were resisting another Nazi occupation where in fact they were
being deluded by the phony glare of US/EU dream.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hvds2AIiWLA"><span class="" style="text-align:center;display:block"></span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA</a> <br></p><p>Ukrainian protesters dreamed of Europe’s <a style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent!important;border:medium none!important;display:inline!important;float:none!important;height:auto!important;margin:0px!important;min-height:0px!important;min-width:0px!important;padding:0px!important;vertical-align:baseline!important;width:auto!important;text-decoration:underline!important" title="Click to Continue > by CouponDropDown" id="_GPLITA_1" href="http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/#">freedom<img style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent ! important; border: medium none ! important; display: inline ! important; float: none ! important; height: 10px ! important; margin: 0px 0px 0px 3px ! important; min-height: 0px ! important; min-width: 0px ! important; padding: 0px ! important; vertical-align: super ! important; width: 10px ! important;" src="http://cdncache1-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png"></a> and prosperity when Europe had actually nothing for them except bailout and long term chain of indebtedness.</p>
<p>I knew that all it took for the rallies to swell was controlled violence.</p>
<p>It only takes a couple of dramatic photos and some video footage of
protesters being attacked and brutalized by police forces to be posted
on the internet. And that’s it; you have a revolution on the go.</p>
<p>But what this whole thing needed to turn into another Tahrir Square,
with Mubarak/ Yanukovych kicked out of power was a nice score of
protesters gunned down by what should look as police snipers.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>According to the Arab Spring’s manual; Rallies turn into a revolution only when someone amongst the protesters gets killed.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>So I knew that the protests wouldn’t stay peaceful for long; I knew
that the Maidan would be targeted by professional snipers, and that the
protesters would respond with raids of Molotov cocktail.</p>
<p>Day after day the violent protests in Kiev began to blow way out of
proportion. It was hard to believe that this thing first erupted over
signing some trade deal.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/citing-coup-in-ukraine-putin-reserves-right-to-use-force/" target="_blank">Putin </a>put
it “the Maidan protests was turning into an orgy of ultranationalists,
far right radicals and neo-Nazis wearing Swastika arm bands”</p>
<p>Likewise, Egyptian protests have been hijacked by Radical Salafists,
Afghanistan Jihadists and of course MB (mother ship of all Islamist
terrorist groups worldwide)</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>And ironically, in both the Egyptian and
Ukrainian case, the US/EU have supported the radicals and militants.
Western democracy works in a really mysterious way.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<div id="attachment_4412" style="width:310px" class=""><a href="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/kalashnikov-wielding-members-of-ukraine_s-radical-nationalist-opposition-group-right-sector.png"><img class="" alt="Kalashnikov-wielding protesters from Ukraine’s radical nationalist opposition group, Right Sector." src="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/kalashnikov-wielding-members-of-ukraine_s-radical-nationalist-opposition-group-right-sector.png?w=300&h=168" height="168" width="300"></a><p class="">
Kalashnikov-wielding protesters from Ukraine’s radical nationalist opposition group, Right Sector.</p></div>
<p>By the way, real protesters and genuine freedom fighters never join rallies and sit-ins carrying bottles of Molotov cocktail.</p>
<p>Gandhi or Guevara was never caught attacking or setting police stations alight.</p>
<p>Whenever you spot firearms, Molotov cocktail bottles, or <a href="http://rt.com/news/radical-opposition-intimidating-techniques-882/" target="_blank">Kalashnikov guns</a>
and daggers, as in the case of Kiev’s protesters then we are watching
not a peaceful march of democracy, as the American administration likes
to call it, but a remotely guided rebellion and so called creative chaos
– courtesy of Arab’s beloved, Mrs. Condoleezza Rice.</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><b>The thin red line</b></span></p>
<p>You see, there is a line any freedom protesters shouldn’t cross or
even get confused about. That line is the thin red one that separates
the regime from the state.</p>
<p>You have, as a political activist the right to criticize, denounce
and even call for the fall of any regime but you must do that while
keeping away from demolishing the pillars of the state you belong to and
live in.</p>
<p>Taking down the regime is one thing, but demolishing the foundations of any sovereign state is a totally different story.</p>
<div id="attachment_4415" style="width:310px" class=""><a href="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/mb-burn-egypt-police-stations.jpg"><img class="" alt="MB militias burned down Police stations all around Egypt few days after the protests kicked off at Tahrir Square" src="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/mb-burn-egypt-police-stations.jpg?w=300&h=200" height="200" width="300"></a><p class="">
MB militias burned down Police stations all around Egypt few days after the protests kicked off at Tahrir Square</p></div>
<p>Anti-regime protests are signs of vibrant democracy, but demolishing
the power of the police and military forces, and terrorizing the
Judiciary system and media institutions are grave symptoms of a nation
sabotaged by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare" target="_blank">4<sup>th</sup> generation warfare.</a></p>
<p>People often wonder why Egyptians pulled out a second revolution
against Mohamed Morsi, the puppet of the International terrorist web of
Muslim Brotherhood (MB)</p>
<p>Well, after the MB had risen to power they simply and swiftly
embarked on demolishing the pillars of the Egyptian state and flagrantly
replaced it with MB figures and alternative institutions.</p>
<p>MB got away with hijacking the Egyptian revolution but they were stupid enough to cross that thin red line.</p>
<p>Actually the revolutions that swept across the Arab World throughout
the last three years targeted not dictatorships but had one goal in
focus, demolishing and liquefying the major Arab countries – with the
help of elements of extremism and fragmentation, namely Jihadists,
Salafis, Takfiris and of course MB</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Unfortunately this is exactly where Ukraine is steadfastly headed – with the stupid help of the<a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/kiev-svoboda-far-right-protests-right-sector-riot-police" target="_blank"> far right </a>and the new Nazis.</strong></em></p>
</blockquote>
<p>So I knew that hundreds in Kiev would be severely wounded and many killed … and most regrettably in vain.</p>
<p>I knew that organized gangs of ultra-nationalist militants, like
gangs of MB militants in Egypt did, would be ordered to move all around
Ukraine and target police headquarters, especially the anti-Riot
security units and special forces (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkut_%28Ukraine%29" target="_blank">Berkut</a>).</p>
<p>I knew that the Ukrainian police wouldn’t be able to hold back for
long and that they would eventually fall and disappear leaving the city
of Kiev and all of Ukraine defenseless. And that is exactly what
happened in Egypt before.</p>
<p>Watch this video of violent Ukrainian protesters storming into a municipal building and brutally attacking police forces.</p>
<span class="" style="text-align:center;display:block"></span>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stK3YPz6WTc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stK3YPz6WTc</a><br></p><p>I knew that after the security vacuum, the Ukrainian president would
pack up in a hurry and flee the country with his closest aides.</p>
<p>After weeks of escalating protests and violence Ukraine lay naked and
vulnerable, in the coldest days of a bitter winter, before the world to
see the game of creating chaos in the name of democracy at work … once
again.</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><b>Russian spring</b></span></p>
<p>I knew that nobody in Ukraine or Russia had seen this coming, simply
because this whole revolution business had been orchestrated from
outside the two countries.</p>
<p>I knew that this whole thing was nothing but the Arab spring’s drones targeted upwards.</p>
<div id="attachment_4422" style="width:310px" class=""><a href="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/maccain-in-ukraine-1.jpg"><img class="" alt="John McCain in Kiev's independence square with far-right opposition leaders - December 2013" src="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/maccain-in-ukraine-1.jpg?w=300&h=200" height="200" width="300"></a><p class="">
John McCain in Kiev’s independence square with far-right opposition leaders – December 2013</p></div>
<p>It was pre-planned not only because of years of preparatory work of
the so called western NGOs in Ukraine, or the American support for the
fragile opposition and the earlier and ominous visit and dinner with the
beastly John MaCcain, but actually because Russia was getting out of
line … once again.</p>
<p>Hadn’t been for the strong Putin and his intervention in the Middle East, Syria and Iraq would have been history by now.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>If the devastation of the Arab Spring hadn’t
been somewhat curtailed by Russia, or hadn’t the US/Zionist conspiracy
been exposed by the audacious stance of the Egyptian military we would
have been looking at a totally different Middle East now – The so called
new Middle East.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>I knew that this whole Ukrainian chaotic situation was not about <a style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent!important;border:medium none!important;display:inline!important;float:none!important;height:auto!important;margin:0px!important;min-height:0px!important;min-width:0px!important;padding:0px!important;vertical-align:baseline!important;width:auto!important;text-decoration:underline!important" title="Click to Continue > by CouponDropDown" id="_GPLITA_2" href="http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-vs-egypt-chaos-in-progress/#">freedom<img style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent ! important; border: medium none ! important; display: inline ! important; float: none ! important; height: 10px ! important; margin: 0px 0px 0px 3px ! important; min-height: 0px ! important; min-width: 0px ! important; padding: 0px ! important; vertical-align: super ! important; width: 10px ! important;" src="http://cdncache1-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png"></a>
or democracy. It was not even about Ukraine in the first place. I knew
that the Russian bear was the target of this “time for democracy in
Ukraine – stunt”</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>I’m not trying to downplay the right of the
Ukrainian or Egyptian peoples’ to protest and express their
dissatisfaction over economic hardships and political corruption. But I
think we should look closer into who’s steering those revolutions into
chaos and disintegration. We should also stop for a while and ponder
over the similar patterns of those recent uprisings.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>I knew that the US & EU would endorse the protesters’ riot and
violence whilst presumptuously demanding the Russians to keep out of it.</p>
<div id="attachment_4434" style="width:310px" class=""><a href="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/putin.jpg"><img class="" alt="Vladimir Putin" src="http://ashraf62.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/putin.jpg?w=300&h=175" height="175" width="300"></a><p class="">
Vladimir Putin, will he stay in control?</p></div>
<p>US and EU is also expecting the Kremlin to show self-restraint
and abide by international laws – the very same laws US trod over in
Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria – otherwise they will consider kicking
the Russian bear out of the G8 and maybe deny Mosco the right to Veto at
their prestigious UN</p>
<p>But I think Self-restraint could sound obscenely ridiculous when
asked of some international power whose very national security and
borders are being under direct attack.</p>
<p>Besides any young politician around the world knows for a fact that
Russia, given the current geopolitics of the Ukrainian crisis,
absolutely can’t afford to give up or get out of Crimea.</p>
<p>So, I believe we are all going to witness a very exciting and dangerous spring.</p>
<p>… the Russian spring.</p><br></div>