<div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4">Keves Jóska!   Korábban már írtam, hogy amennyiben teológiai kérdésekben """"állításokat""""  teszel, hozzáértés nélkül, akkor ennek szankció lesz a következménye. </font></div><div><font size="4">Amit fent a pápai tévedhetetlenségről írtál, nem felel meg a valóságnak. </font></div><div><font size="4">Most figyelmeztetlek, ha még egy nem hozzáértő """"állítást"""" teszel katolikus teológiai kérdésekben, le foglak venni a listáról egy hétre.</font></div><div><font size="4">Kérdezni persze lehet....   /  Szeretettel, Emőke</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4"><u>Kedves Lista!       </u>A magyarkurir.hu-n sebtiben ezt találtam a pápai tévedhetetlenség dogmájáról:</font></div><div><font size="4"><a href="https://www.magyarkurir.hu/hirek/szazotven-eves-papai-tevedhetetlenseg-dogmaja">https://www.magyarkurir.hu/hirek/szazotven-eves-papai-tevedhetetlenseg-dogmaja</a></font></div><div><font size="4"></font></div><div><font size="4">Szeretettel,</font></div><div><font size="4">E /M</font></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 9:39 PM József Lehoczky <<a href="mailto:gyogyito.ero@gmail.com">gyogyito.ero@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><font size="6">Már az előző Ferenc pápa is megkérdőjelezhető. Ez a mai pápa USA beli, már a gondolkodását átitatta az USA szennyezett világa. Láthatjuk a  Katolikus Egyház az USA-ban  már úgy működik, mintha vállalkozások csoportosulása lenne. Templomokat zárnak be Püspöki utasításra, mert nem kifizetődő, nincs elég látogatója a templomnak a nyájban.</font><div><font size="6"> Felmerül itt megint a kérdés:</font></div><div><font size="6">Előjön a pápai tévedhetetlenség dogmája, ami csak egy ügyes jogi húzás volt amikor egyesült Itália , létrejött Olaszország, megszűnt a történelmi pápai állam. A Vatikán mai formája, mintegy  új államként jött létre Olaszország és a pápai állam szerződésével. A világi hatalmat elveszítette volna, ezért egy ügyes jogi húzással a zsinat kimondta a "Pápai tévedhetetlenség dogmáját". Ami már a maga korában sok püspöknél váltott ki rosszallást. Erre kimondták, hogy a tévedhetetlenség "ex katedra " értendő.  (De erre minden ráhúzható.)</font></div><div><font size="6">  Ezzel a dogmával megmaradt a Vatikán egész világra kiterjedő hatalma. És ez fontos!!!!</font></div><div><font size="6">  De sok hitvány pápa volt régen is. I.Ottó, az eső német nemzetiségű Római Szent Birodalmi Császár, azzal  vette német kézbe a császárságot, hogy rendet tett Rómában, ahol már 100 éve bűnözők, gyilkosok, római előkelő családok véreskezű kreatúrái voltak a pápák.  Később is voltak hitvány pápák. A mai idők hitványai is eljöttek (a Vatikánba is beköltözött a szabadkőművesség), ez Európa tönkretételével párhuzamos. </font></div><div><font size="6">   II. János Pál pápa akit "erőltetett csodákkal" szentté avattak, már megváltoztatta az áldozáskor a régi  "Ez a vér értetek és <u>sokakért</u> kiontatik a bűnök bocsánatára" szöveget erre :"Ez a vér értetek és <u>mindenkiért</u> kiontatik a bűnök bocsánatára"... II. János Pál pápa korábban színész-költőként krakkói zsidó barátai révén modern ( kissé túl liberális) gondolkodású volt, a megváltást mindenkire kivetítette. <i>((Ne felejtsük Jézus mondatát: "Sokan vannak a meghívottak, de kevesen a választottak"- ezért a II.János Pál pápa  szövegmódosítása  hibás!))</i> Ezt a szöveget aztán visszaváltoztatta következő  Ratzinger  pápa,akit a szabadkőművesek lemondattak, és választottak egy  kikeresztelkedett zsidó szülőktől született jezsuita pápát , Ferenc pápát. (<i>Itt lehet ,hogy mégsem mondok igazat, mert csak egy teológiai doktor altábornagy ismerősömet ismétlem, aki ezt mondta nekem: "Pisztolyt nyomtak a fejéhez, vagy lemond, vagy..." Ő dr. Kardos Attila a katonaságon belül végezte a teológiát, állítólag Semjén Zsolttal együtt Ratzinger bíborosnál  tanultak, vagy vizsgáztak, amikor az még egyetemi tanár volt. Csak az altábornagy barátom komcsi, utálja az Orbán Viktort, mert elvették a nyugdíját, és most is kénytelen dolgozni, együtt dolgoztam vele biztonsági őrként, hogy magasabb legyen majd a nyugdíjam, amit el is értem. Ez a tábornok most javítóintézetbeli tanár. De én úgy ismertem meg, hogy szavahihető!  Ennyi megjegyzés ahhoz amit itt állítok... -De nemcsak ő állította ,hogy a Vatikánba költöztek a szabadkőművesek , mert annak idején elcsaltak egy bróker előadásra, "alkalmazottakat kerestek", ahol a bemutatkozó vetítésen bizony szabadkőműves jelvényeket láttam, és az előadó állította, hogy ők kapcsolatban vannak a Vatikánnal, és állítása szerint a Vatikán visszavonta a szabadkőművesek kiátkozását.- ennyi az állítás alátámasztásáról!)   </i></font></div><div><font size="6"><i> </i>Rothad Európa, iszlamizálódik, a globális háttérhatalom szét akarja rothasztani a világot. Nem igazán érthető a gondolkodásuk, mert az iszlamizáció éppen a hétköznapi zsidók ellen is folyik,de ezek a háttérhatalmi emberek olyanok mint a Soros György és a buzi fia:  a SÁTÁN FIAI. így is mondhatjuk, és ez nem hülyeség amit itt mondok, mert mintha a gonosz szállta volna meg ezeket az agyakat. Nézzük az Ursula Von Der Ribancot (Valójában Agatha Ursula Albrecht, csak a férje von der Leyen nevét viseli), vagy nézzük Wébert és a ballibsi Európai Parlamentet!Ezek nemcsak lefizetettek, nemcsak hülyék, de ezek gonoszak!!!</font></div><div><font size="6">Ezért ne csodálkozzunk  azon ami szeptember 10-én történt.</font></div><div><font size="6">Európát Magyarországnak ott kell hagyni! Végül beigazolódik a Pio atya jóslata.</font></div><div><font size="6">LJ.</font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Katalin Mohr <<a href="mailto:mohrk28@gmail.com" target="_blank">mohrk28@gmail.com</a>> ezt írta (időpont: 2025. szept. 11., Cs, 20:01):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Ez valóban megtörtént???</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Hihetetlen !</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Üdv</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Mohr Kati</div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><b><i>XIV. Leó buzdította a püspököt a
                                                          homoszexuálisok
                                                          Vatikánba
                                                          vonulása előtt
                                                          a
                                                          homoszexuálisok
Eucharisztiájának celebrálására</i></b></font></div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><b><i>Mintegy 1000 ember vett részt ma a
                                                          Vatikánban <span style="margin:0px;text-align:inherit;padding:0px"></span>a Szent
                                                          Péter-bazilikához
                                                          tartó Gay
                                                          Pride
                                                          felvonuláson.</i></b></font></div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><b><i>A csoport egy nagy szivárványszínű keresztet
                                                          vitt. Voltak
                                                          köztük
                                                          transzvesztiták
                                                          és kézen fogva
                                                          tartó férfiak,
                                                          valamint
                                                          homoszexuális
                                                          házasságban
                                                          élő emberek,
                                                          akik
                                                          szivárványszínű
                                                          ruhákat
                                                          tartottak.</i></b></font></div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><b><i>A menet előtt Francesco Savino püspök, az
                                                          olasz püspöki
                                                          konferencia
                                                          alelnöke
                                                          Eucharisztiát
                                                          celebrált.</i></b></font></div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><b><i>James Martin jezsuita homoszexuális
                                                          aktivista
                                                          szerint Savino
                                                          püspök
                                                          megemlítette,
                                                          hogy beszélt
                                                          XIV. <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">L</span>eóval
                                                          az
                                                          Eucharisztiáról.
                                                          A pápa
                                                          bátorította
                                                          őt, hogy
                                                          ünnepelje meg
                                                          a csoporttal:
                                                          "Menj,
                                                          ünnepeld velük
                                                          a szentmisét!"</i></b></font></div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><b><i>A szentbeszéd során Savino püspök elmondta,
                                                          hogy egy
                                                          jubileumi
                                                          évben a földet
                                                          visszaadják
                                                          azoknak,
                                                          akiktől
                                                          elvették.
                                                          "Testvérek és
                                                          nővérek,
                                                          meghatódva
                                                          mondom ezt.
                                                          Itt az ideje,
                                                          hogy
                                                          visszaadjuk a
                                                          méltóságot
                                                          mindenkinek,
                                                          különösen
                                                          azoknak,
                                                          akiktől
                                                          megtagadták".</i></b></font></div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><b><i>Isten az idők kezdete óta elítéli a
                                                          homoszexualitást.</i></b></font></div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto" style="font-size:15px;font-family:inherit">ÉS A FÖRTELEM UTÁNI KÉT CIKK</div>
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                                                          <p><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="https://makkabeussziv.blogspot.com/2025/09/a-frocio-szentev.html?m=1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://makkabeussziv.blogspot.com/2025/09/a-frocio-szentev.html?m=1</a></span></p>
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