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<p>Kedves Lista !</p>
<p>Mint tudjátok mást sem tettem eddig a listán mint összeesküvés
elméleteket próbáltam cáfolni .</p>
<p>De ez a kérdés most több mint érdekes. Akit érdekel a téma Írja
be a keresőbe "Luc Montagnier ,Wuhan " szavakat és előjönnek
magyar és angol nyelvű cikkek.</p>
<p>Itt az a rettenetes felelősség merül fel ,hogyha valaki eleve
ismerte a ennek a dögnek a tulajdonságait és időben szól akkor
esetleg egészen másként kellett volna ellene hatóanyagot keresni
.A fertőzés még is csak Wuhanból indult ,azzal együtt hogy nem
kínai cégek is benne voltak a projektben.<br>
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<p>E.<br>
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cite="mid:alpine.DEB.2.21.2004262143390.9377@zalman00.cs.bme.hu">Kedves
Mindenki!
<br>
Ha a vírus mesterséges, akkor viszont bárhol készülhetett, nem
biztos, hogy Kínában. Ez egy Trump köreiből származó, de azért
mégiscsak összeesküvés-elmélet.
<br>
Sziasztok Rita
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020, Reinisch Egon wrote:
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<br>
A jó öreg Luc ,már rájött erre .
<br>
<br>
2020.04.26. 19:47 keltezéssel, Emoke Greschik írta:
<br>
How COVID-19 may have been deliberately engineered
in a China biolab
<br>
<br>
The Wuhan Virus may have been deliberately engineered in
the laboratory by joining
<br>
parts of different viruses together using what is called
recombinant technology.
<br>
Wed Apr 22, 2020 - 4:04 pm EST
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April 22, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Let’s start with the bats, the
species known as
<br>
Intermediate Horseshoe Bat, to be exact. The Chinese Communist
authorities claim that the
<br>
China Virus, called SARS-CoV-2, is a naturally occurring
coronavirus that is carried by
<br>
the Horseshoe Bat. They also claim that the virus “jumped” from
its normal host to humans
<br>
at the Wuhan “wet” market.
<br>
<br>
Both of these claims are demonstrably false.
<br>
<br>
Let’s start with the Wuhan “wet” market. As I told Jesse Watters
on his FOX news show,
<br>
“Watters World,” last week, if the “wet” market was actually
“ground zero” for the
<br>
outbreak, the authorities would have burned it to the ground.
Instead, they have now
<br>
reopened it.
<br>
<br>
It is an open secret in Wuhan that, as a team of researchers
from Wuhan noted in late
<br>
February, that there were no bats in the market and that direct
transmission from bats to
<br>
humans in the market was “unlikely.”
<br>
<br>
Two other researchers had reported the same thing a week
earlier, namely, “[T]he bat was
<br>
never a food source in the city and no bat was traded in the
market.” But these
<br>
researchers, both surnamed Xiao, went even further. They
pointed out that there were bats
<br>
in Wuhan--thousands of them—but they were being kept in two
biolabs not far from the “wet”
<br>
market where they were used for research purposes.
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They identified the two labs as the Wuhan Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention (CDC)
<br>
and the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). The Wuhan CDC is the
national center for
<br>
China’s bat coronavirus research. Wuhan Institute of Virology
uses recombinant technology
<br>
to create and study new coronaviruses. The conclusion of the two
Doctors Xiao was that
<br>
“somebody was entangled with the evolution of [SARS-CoV-2] … the
killer coronavirus
<br>
probably escaped from a laboratory in Wuhan.”
<br>
<br>
Their word choice is a little awkward because the researchers
were writing in what is for
<br>
them foreign language. But what they clearly mean is that the
China Coronavirus now
<br>
plaguing the planet is not the result of a natural recombination
of two different viruses
<br>
in nature through an intermediate host, as many claim. Rather
it was deliberately
<br>
engineered in the laboratory by joining parts of different
viruses together using what is
<br>
called recombinant technology.
<br>
<br>
More on the science of how this was done later. Right now all
you need to know is that,
<br>
within a few hours of its publication, their paper on “The
possible origins of
<br>
[SARS-CoV-2] coronavirus” was withdrawn. This same fate has
since befallen several papers
<br>
by Chinese authors who have attempted, at great risk to
themselves, to reveal the truth
<br>
about the origin of the outbreak to the world.
<br>
<br>
Now back to the bats.
<br>
<br>
China’s chief bat hunter is an employee of the Wuhan CDC named
Tian Junhua. Mr. Tian’s
<br>
full-time job since 2012 has been collecting bat viruses for
research purposes. Over this
<br>
time he collected thousands of live bats, as well as countless
samples of bat urine and
<br>
feces, from caves over six hundred miles distant from Wuhan. The
tiny mammals obviously
<br>
didn’t get to the city under their own power, but were trapped
and transported to the two
<br>
biolabs by the industrious Mr. Tian. As the two Drs. Xiao wryly
noted, “The probability
<br>
was very low for the bats to fly to the market.”
<br>
<br>
As a result of the efforts of Mr. Tian and others, China now
boasts that it has “taken the
<br>
lead” in global virus research. It claims to have discovered
over 2,000 new viruses since
<br>
the SARS Coronavirus epidemic of 2003. To give you a sense of
the scale of China’s
<br>
effort, the total number of viruses discovered over the last two
hundred years is, at
<br>
2,284, only slightly more. China’s frenzied collection efforts
have nearly doubled the
<br>
total number of known viruses, and includes hundreds of new and
possibly dangerous
<br>
coronaviruses.
<br>
<br>
That’s a lot of potentially harmful pathogens to keep track of.
But it is also a huge
<br>
cache of coronaviruses to harvest parts and pieces from if you
are looking to make an
<br>
already deadly coronavirus even deadlier.
<br>
<br>
And that seems to be exactly what a group of researchers at the
Wuhan Institute of
<br>
Virology, led by a woman named Shi Zhengli, may have been intent
upon doing right up until
<br>
the end of 2019.
<br>
<br>
We all know what happened then.
<br>
<br>
The Technology
<br>
<br>
Shi Zhengli received her master’s degree from the Wuhan
Institute of Virology in 1990.
<br>
After earning her Ph.D. in France, she returned to WIV to direct
the Institute’s research
<br>
project into bat coronaviruses. If Mr. Tian is China’s batman,
Dr. Shi is China’s
<br>
batwoman.
<br>
<br>
Some of the articles published by Dr. Shi and her team of
virologists describe naturally
<br>
occurring SARS-like coronaviruses that, like the SARS virus
itself, could infect human
<br>
beings directly.
<br>
<br>
But Dr. Shi’s group was not content to merely study existing
coronaviruses. They were also
<br>
genetically engineering new ones. In a 2008 article in
the Journal of Virology, she and
<br>
her team described how they were genetically engineering
SARS-like viruses from horseshoe
<br>
bats to enable them to use angiotensin-converting enzyme 2
(ACE2) to gain entry into human
<br>
cells.
<br>
<br>
In other words, more than 10 years ago, Shi’s team was already
creating entirely new and
<br>
deadly coronaviruses. They did so by inserting that part of the
dangerous SARS virus that
<br>
allows it to infect people into a second bat coronavirus, which
was then able to attack
<br>
human cells just like the original SARS virus does.
<br>
<br>
But simply recreating a new SARS virus was only a first step.
Shi and her team wanted to
<br>
move beyond that to create completely new, and potentially even
more deadly coronaviruses.
<br>
For that she needed a new and more advanced recombinant
technique. She may have found one
<br>
in research being done at the University of North Carolina by
Prof. Ralph S. Baric.
<br>
<br>
Prof. Baric had developed a technique for quickly and easily
producing what he called
<br>
“infectious clones.” This involves taking coronaviruses from
horseshoe bats and
<br>
genetically engineering them to more easily infect human
cells.
<br>
<br>
Why would he--or anyone else for that matter--do such a thing?
<br>
<br>
Baric explains: “In 2013 preemergent SARS-like Coronaviruses
were identified in horseshoe
<br>
bats and found to be poised for entry into the human population.
… preemergent
<br>
coronaviruses (CoVs) pose a global threat that requires
immediate intervention. Rapid
<br>
intervention necessitates the capacity to generate, grow, and
genetically manipulate
<br>
infectious CoVs in order to rapidly evaluate pathogenic
mechanisms, host and tissue
<br>
permissibility, and candidate antiviral therapeutic efficacy.”
(italics added)
<br>
<br>
Now all of this—preemergent coronaviruses … poised for entry …
global threat … requires
<br>
immediate intervention—all sounds very ominous. But what people
need to understand is
<br>
that the good professor is talking about coronaviruses that have
not actually infected a
<br>
single, living, breathing human being. Rather, he is talking
about coronaviruses that
<br>
might, possibly, at some point in the future, make the leap from
bats to humans. Or they
<br>
might not. Ever.
<br>
<br>
This means that the phrase “preemergent coronavirus” is at best
misleading, at worst a
<br>
fiction. It is a fiction because neither Prof. Baric, nor Dr.
Shi Zhengli, nor anyone
<br>
else, can possibly know whether any one of these naturally
occurring viruses will ever
<br>
infect a single human being.
<br>
<br>
In any event, Prof. Baric is very pleased to inform us, citing
his own research, that
<br>
“much of the [coronavirus] research over the last 15 years has
been possible because of
<br>
the capacity to generate infectious clones using highly
efficient reverse genetics
<br>
platforms, coupled with robust small animal models of human
disease.”
<br>
<br>
In other words, he and his team used the technique they created
to easily construct
<br>
unnatural coronaviruses and see if they will infect and kill
mice. Dr. Shi Zhengli
<br>
collaborated with Baric in carrying out some of this research,
as highlighted in a 2015
<br>
article in Nature Medicine in which they discussed bat
coronaviruses that were potentially
<br>
capable of infecting human beings.
<br>
<br>
Now, a sane person might think that the idea of creating
dangerous new pathogens in the
<br>
lab for which humanity had no acquired immunity, no vaccines,
and no drug therapies might
<br>
not be a good idea. The U.S. National Institutes of Health,
under the direction of Dr.
<br>
Anthony Fauci, however, initially funded Prof. Baric’s
research.
<br>
<br>
But then Dr. Fauci had second thoughts. In late 2014 he sent a
letter to the University
<br>
of North Carolina, notifying the university that Prof. Baric’s
research project may
<br>
violate a new moratorium on risky virology studies involving
influenza, MERS and SARS
<br>
viruses.
<br>
<br>
The letter and the document from the “Public Health Emergency”
office of HHS that it
<br>
references, orders a pause on “Gain of Function” research into
SARS-like coronaviruses.
<br>
What is “Gain of Function” research, precisely? The document
defines it as “research that
<br>
improves the ability of a pathogen to cause disease … [by]
“confer[ing] attributes to …
<br>
SARS [coronaviruses] such that the resulting virus has enhanced
pathogenicity and/or
<br>
transmissibility (via the respiratory route) in mammals. …
[that] may entail biosafety and
<br>
biosecurity risks.”
<br>
<br>
The original scientific rationale for “enhancing” the ability of
certain coronaviruses to
<br>
infect and kill human beings was to get one step ahead of the
net pandemic. “We will
<br>
create superbugs in the lab,” the scientists said to themselves,
“and we will learn how to
<br>
defeat them by developing drug therapies and vaccines. Then
when the next superbug
<br>
emerges from nature, we will be ready.”
<br>
<br>
But what happens if you create a new superbug in the lab and,
before you have devised a
<br>
defense against it, it escapes from the lab. What then?
<br>
<br>
The consequences of unleashing such an “enhanced” coronavirus on
the world—a pathogen for
<br>
which human beings had no natural defenses, and for which human
science had no treatments
<br>
or vaccines—would be incalculable.
<br>
<br>
The U.S. pause on such research was not lifted until December
29, 2017, over three years
<br>
later, when NIH put in place what it called “robust oversight”
that considers the
<br>
“scientific merits and potential benefits,” as well as the
“potential to create ... or use
<br>
an enhanced potential pandemic pathogen.”
<br>
<br>
In other words, the brakes were put on the dangerous
“gain-of-function” research being
<br>
done in the U.S. for fear that it would “create” a pathogen that
could, if it leaked from
<br>
the lab, cause a pandemic. We decided that the risks associated
with such research were
<br>
generally not worth the benefits.
<br>
<br>
Not so in China, however. There, in Dr. Shi’s laboratory, the
creation of dangerous
<br>
“pathogens of pandemic potential” apparently went forward
without pause or effective
<br>
oversight. Communist China is not known for its concern for
human life.
<br>
<br>
Since we are now dealing with exactly the kind of deadly and
infectious SARS-like
<br>
coronaviruses that scientists have been creating in the lab for
at least the past ten
<br>
years, it is reasonable to ask if the China Coronavirus is a
naturally occurring virus.
<br>
Or is it one of batwoman’s concoctions?
<br>
<br>
Virtually everyone now agrees that the China Coronavirus,
SARS-CoV-2, leaked from Dr.
<br>
Shi’s lab. But I would suggest that the virus itself is the
product of Gain of Function
<br>
research in which its potency was artificially “enhanced” to
make it more infectious and
<br>
more lethal using recombinant techniques first developed in the
U.S., perhaps at Prof.
<br>
Baric’s lab. The leak was an accident. The “enhancement” was
deliberate.
<br>
<br>
On March 30th of this year, an unusual, unsigned “Editor’s Note”
was added to Shi and
<br>
Baric’s original article in Nature Medicine. The oddly worded
note read: “We are aware
<br>
that this article is being used as the basis for unverified
theories that the novel
<br>
coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no
evidence that this is true;
<br>
scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of
the coronavirus.”
<br>
<br>
Actually, the “most likely source” of the coronavirus is not
just one animal but two,
<br>
whose distinct but related species of coronaviruses were
isolated from their hosts and
<br>
then pieced together in the lab using recombinant technology to
create a new and much more
<br>
infectious variety.
<br>
<br>
* * *
<br>
<br>
In Part II I will review the evidence that the novel coronavirus
is the result of what
<br>
Chinese researchers themselves have called an “unusual
insertion” in a Horseshoe Bat
<br>
coronavirus that may have come from a Pangolin coronavirus.
<br>
<br>
Steven W. Mosher @StevenWMosher is the President of the
Population Research Institute and
<br>
the author of Bully of Asia: Why China’s “Dream” is the New
Threat to World Order.
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