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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 9, 2020 8:06 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Grem] Szegenyseg es populizmus</font>
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<div>Orakig vitatkoztam a maltaiak vezetojevel Vecsei Miklossal most nyaron is peldaul egy hosszura nyult kozos ebed alatt, ot is nagyon demagognak tartom. Peldaul minden egyes eloadasan megmutat egy foldes padloju szobat, hogy a cigany gyerekek ilyen lakasban
elnek es ilyen korulmenyek kozott felnove eselytelenek, hogy normalisan tanuljanak, hogy kesobb valamire vigyek az eletben.</div>
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<div>A magyar lakossag tulnyomo tobbsege ilyen korulmenyek kozott elt es nott fel meg az otvenes evekben is, kb. hetven, nyolcvan eve!</div>
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<div>Par eve World Press foto palyazatan dijnyertes lett egy kep, amit a legszegenyebb magyar (cigany) falurol keszitett valaki. Minden hazon ott volt a muholdvevo tanyer! Nem tudok egyetlen esetrol sem, hogy ehen halt volna valaki Magyarorszagon, annal tobb
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<div>Eletinterjukat keszitek nyolcvan-kilencveneves emberekkel Pasareten. Most jol elnek, de a legtobbjuk 1-2 gyerekkel meg 16-20! negyzetmeteres lakasban kezdte, hihetetlen szegenyek voltak hozzank kepest az emberek itt Budapesten is, kiveve a partelitet.</div>
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Ha egy politikus menne oda, rávágná, hogy itt szegének laknak, mi<br>
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Nagyságrenddel több pénzből éltek mint mi, mégis sparhelten melegítették<br>
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