<div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 5:53 PM Sziklay Levente <<a href="mailto:lsziklay@freemail.hu">lsziklay@freemail.hu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Vannak áttérrések, de demográfiailag lényegtelen mértékben - de tény, hogy fontos kezelni, de nem szabad a mértéket eltúlozni - kétségtelenül egynémely meglepő pl.</div><div>Atrhur Wagner-é, aki az AfD helyettes vezetője volt Brandenburg tartományban...</div><div> </div><div><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/31/far-right-afd-member-converted-islam-protest-gay-marriage-acceptance/" target="_blank">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/31/far-right-afd-member-converted-islam-protest-gay-marriage-acceptance/</a></div><div><br>Emoke Greschik <<a href="mailto:greschem@gmail.com" target="_blank">greschem@gmail.com</a>> írta:<blockquote style="border-left:3px solid lightgray;padding-left:3px"><div dir="ltr"><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print"><b>A cikk rövid magyar összefoglalása (angol nyelvű forrás: <a href="https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-scandinavian-journalists-explain-how-europe-could-fall-to-islam" target="_blank">https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-scandinavian-journalists-explain-how-europe-could-fall-to-islam</a>)</b></p><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print"><b>A nyugati értékek majdnem teljesen materialistává váltak. Azonban, a puszta materializmus nem elégíti ki az embert - "nemcsak kenyéren él az ember". Egyre több nyugati ember fordul különböző ideológiákhoz, az iszlámtól a pogányságig - bármihez, csak ne a kereszténység legyen az. Mivel ezen ideológiák eleve ellenségesek a kereszténységgel szemben, a nyugati kultúra, amely eredetileg keresztény elveken alapszik, szuiciddé vált, aminek a jelenlegi európai helyzet köszönhető.</b></p><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print"><b>Spirituális háborúban állunk, nem pusztán politikai küzdelemben. Tabuvá vált a vallásról beszélni a vallásellenes ideológiai keretben. Az iszlám európai sikerének oka a spirituális vákum.</b></p><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print"><b>A statisztikák igazolják mindezt: "Norvégok ezrei fordulnak az iszlámhoz. Az etnikai norvégok áradata válik muszlimmá. Pontosan azért, mert a kereszténység elpárolgott. </b></p><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print"><b>A gyenge kereszténység erős iszlámot jelent.</b></p><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print"> </p><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print">A CIKK ANGOLUL ALÁBB:</p><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print"><a href="https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-scandinavian-journalists-explain-how-europe-could-fall-to-islam" target="_blank">https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-scandinavian-journalists-explain-how-europe-could-fall-to-islam</a></p><p class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-tags gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-hide-print"> </p><div class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-text-wrapper"><p>May 24, 2019 (<a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/05/two_scandinavian_journalists_expose_the_wests_demise_from_weak_christianity.html" target="_blank">American Thinker</a>) — The following brief but highly informative interview, titled "<a href="https://www.hannenabintuherland.com/news/iben-thranholm-you-cannot-understand-the-world-only-from-a-political-view-point-the-world-is-a-spiritual-place-herland-report-tv/" target="_blank">Europe: Deep Spiritual Crisis</a>," appeared earlier this year on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTdVY6ae-riIygpmSUgUwJw" target="_blank">Herland Report TV</a>. The host, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanne_Nabintu_Herland" target="_blank">Hanne Nabintu Herland</a>, a Norwegian historian of religions and a journalist, interviews <a href="https://twitter.com/ithranholm?lang=en" target="_blank">Iben Thranholm</a>, a Danish theologian and journalist.</p><p>Both women are to be commended for raising many important points — indeed, for getting to the heart of the West's problems, including vis-à-vis Islam — that are seldom acknowledged in American media, certainly not "mainstream" media. Moreover, as both come from Scandinavia, arguably the most "progressive" region in the world, they know what they speak of and offer a prognostication the U.S. can learn from.</p><p>The general theme of the episode is that <span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b><span style="background-color:rgb(255,242,204)">Western values</span> have become almost entirely materialistic </b></span>in essence.<span style="background-color:rgb(217,234,211)"><b> Because</b></span> <span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>pure materialism is ultimately dissatisfying</b></span> — <span style="background-color:rgb(208,224,227)"><b>"man shall not live on bread alone"</b> </span>—<b> </b><span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>more and more Western people are turning to any number of metaphysical ideologies, from Islam to paganism </b>—<b> anything, as long as it's not </b></span> <span style="background-color:rgb(255,242,204)"><b>Christianity.</b></span><span style="background-color:rgb(217,234,211)"><b> Because </b></span><span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>many of these ideologies are intrinsically hostile to</b></span> <span style="background-color:rgb(255,242,204)"><b>Christianity</b></span>,<span style="background-color:rgb(255,242,204)"><b> Western culture, which was founded on Christian principles</b></span>,<span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b> has become suicidal </b></span>— hence the current situation, especially in Europe.</p><p>As Thranholm explains:</p><blockquote><p>You cannot understand the world only from a political viewpoint.<span style="background-color:rgb(217,234,211)"><b> We <span style="background-color:rgb(217,234,211)"> </span></b><b>are </b></span><span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>in a spiritual warfare and not <span style="background-color:rgb(217,234,211)">just a political struggle.</span></b></span> ..<span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>. It has become a taboo to <span style="background-color:rgb(255,242,204)">speak about religion</span> due to this anti-religious ideology that claims that religion has no value. </b></span><span style="color:rgb(153,0,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">As long as we remain in this spiritual crisis, I don't think Europe will be able to defeat Islam.</span><b><span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"> </span></b></span><span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>The reason why Islam is so successful here is because we have a spiritual vacuum. </b></span></p></blockquote><p>Disturbing statistics validate this latter point. <span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>"Thousands of <span style="background-color:rgb(217,234,211)">Norwegians </span>are rushing to Islam" every year,</b></span> says Herland. "<span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>A flood of <span style="background-color:rgb(217,234,211)"> ethnic Scandinavians </span>are becoming Muslim,"</b></span> <span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>precisely because <span style="background-color:rgb(255,242,204)">Christianity</span> has "evaporated."</b></span></p><p>It's especially refreshing to see that both women understand that whatever issues the West is having with Islam, these are almost entirely brought on by the West itself — a point I often make (<a href="https://www.raymondibrahim.com/2015/12/16/islamic-jihad-symptom-of-a-western-cause/" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="https://www.raymondibrahim.com/2016/04/18/the-muslim-will-vs-the-western-way/" target="_blank">here</a> for example). As Thranholm, who refers to the current "anti-Christian ideology" in the West as "the second coming of Marxism," says, "<span style="background-color:rgb(234,209,220)"><b>a weak <span style="background-color:rgb(255,242,204)">Christianity</span> means a strong Islam."</b></span></p><p>The brief video follows and is well worth watching:</p><div class="gmail-m_-1450645033062756032m_6209933788969338791m_-4617700182932323545gmail-article-video"> </div><p><i><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=KhC-iYn0FZU" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=KhC-iYn0FZU</a></i></p></div></div><br><br> <br><br> <br> <br> A cikk rövid magyar összefoglalása (angol nyelvű forrás: <br><a href="https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-scandinavian-journalists-explain-how-europe-could-fall-to-islam" target="_blank">https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-scandinavian-journalists-explain-how-europe-could-fall-to-islam</a>) <br> A nyugati értékek majdnem teljesen materialistává váltak. Azonban, a puszta materializmus nem elégíti ki az embert - "nemcsak kenyéren él az ember". Egyre több nyugati ember fordul különböző ideológiákhoz, az iszlámtól a pogányságig - bármihez, csak ne a kereszténység legyen az. Mivel ezen ideológiák eleve ellenségesek a kereszténységgel szemben, a nyugati kultúra, amely eredetileg keresztény elveken alapszik, szuiciddé vált, aminek a jelenlegi európai helyzet köszönhető. Spirituális háborúban állunk, nem pusztán politikai küzdelemben. Tabuvá vált a vallásról beszélni a vallásellenes ideológiai keretben. Az iszlám európai sikerének oka a spirituális vákum.A statisztikák igazolják mindezt: "Norvégok ezrei fordulnak az iszlámhoz. Az etnikai norvégok áradata válik muszlimmá. Pontosan azért, mert a kereszténység elpárolgott. A gyenge kereszténység erős iszlámot jelent.A CIKK ANGOLUL ALÁBB:<a href="https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-scandinavian-journalists-explain-how-europe-could-fall-to-islam" target="_blank">https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/two-scandinavian-journalists-explain-how-europe-could-fall-to-islam</a><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br> <br> <br><br> <br> <br>May 24, 2019 (American Thinker) — The following brief but highly informative interview, titled "Europe: Deep Spiritual Crisis," appeared earlier this year on Herland Report TV. The host, Hanne Nabintu Herland, a Norwegian historian of religions and a journalist, interviews Iben Thranholm, a Danish theologian and journalist.<br><br><br>Both women are to be commended for raising many important points — <br>indeed, for getting to the heart of the West's problems, including <br>vis-à-vis Islam — that are seldom acknowledged in American media, <br>certainly not "mainstream" media. Moreover, as both come from <br>Scandinavia, arguably the most "progressive" region in the world, they <br>know what they speak of and offer a prognostication the U.S. can learn <br>from.<br><br><br><br>The general theme of the episode is that Western values have become <br>almost entirely materialistic in essence. Because pure materialism is <br>ultimately dissatisfying — "man shall not live on bread alone" — more <br>and more Western people are turning to any number of metaphysical <br>ideologies, from Islam to paganism — anything, as long as it's not <br>Christianity. Because many of these ideologies are intrinsically hostile<br> to Christianity, Western culture, which was founded on Christian <br>principles, has become suicidal — hence the current situation, <br>especially in Europe.<br><br><br>As Thranholm explains:<br><br><br><br>You cannot understand the world only from a political viewpoint. We <br>are in a spiritual warfare and not just a political struggle. ... It has<br> become a taboo to speak about religion due to this anti-religious <br>ideology that claims that religion has no value. As long as we remain in<br> this spiritual crisis, I don't think Europe will be able to defeat <br>Islam. The reason why Islam is so successful here is because we have a <br>spiritual vacuum. <br><br><br><br>Disturbing statistics validate this latter point. "Thousands of <br>Norwegians are rushing to Islam" every year, says Herland. "A flood of <br>ethnic Scandinavians are becoming Muslim," precisely because <br>Christianity has "evaporated."<br><br><br>It's especially refreshing to see that both women understand that <br>whatever issues the West is having with Islam, these are almost entirely<br> brought on by the West itself — a point I often make (here and here for<br> example). As Thranholm, who refers to the current "anti-Christian <br>ideology" in the West as "the second coming of Marxism," says, "a weak <br>Christianity means a strong Islam."<br><br><br>The brief video follows and is well worth watching:<br><br><br><br> <br> <br> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=KhC-iYn0FZU" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=KhC-iYn0FZU</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Grem mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Grem@turul.kgk.uni-obuda.hu" target="_blank">Grem@turul.kgk.uni-obuda.hu</a><br><a href="http://turul.kgk.uni-obuda.hu/mailman/listinfo/grem" target="_blank">http://turul.kgk.uni-obuda.hu/mailman/listinfo/grem</a></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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