[Grem] Viktor Orbán announces his vision for a stable Europe that defends Christian values

[Emoke Greschik]

Kedves Klári! Kedves Lista!
Köszönjük, Klári, az elismerést és az igazán kedves képet, amit küldtél
A kedves Listatagság igaz értékek mentén igyekszik gondolkodni. ebből
következően igaz értékek mentén igyekszünk anyagokat tenni a listára. Ha
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merülnek fel, l. az elmúlt hetekben tárgyalt magánkinyilatkoztatás, ill. az
egyház által el nem fogadott medjugorjei jelenések, akkor köszönjük szépen
a megalapozott kételyeknek való hangot adást és minden hozzászóló
hozzászólását.
Szeretettel,
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On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 5:08 PM Klára Hegyi <hegyiklaramnt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Köszönöm a tájékoztatást, amúgy nagyon jó anyagok kerülnek a listára.
> Minden jót, Klári
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> Emoke Greschik <greschem at gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. júl. 12., P
> 16:08):
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>> Kedves Klári!
>> Nem, sajnos, nincs. Ez egy kanadai-amerikai-angol (ha jól tudom)
>> katolikus portál cikke. Továbbküldhető angolul beszélők számára, mert a
>> cikk keresztény szemszögből íródott, nem olyanból, amit a nyugati sajtó
>> általában fest Orbánról.
>> Szeretettel,
>> Emőke
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>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:52 PM Klára Hegyi <hegyiklaramnt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Sziasztok, kedves Lista, van magyar változat? Kösz Kl
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>>> Emoke Greschik <greschem at gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. júl. 12.,
>>> P 15:22):
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>>>> Viktor Orbán announces his vision for a stable Europe that defends
>>>> Christian values
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Hungarian PM Viktor Orbán recently announced a new 'Patriots for
>>>> Europe' bloc in the European Parliament. The goal is to combat the 'green
>>>> poison' of the 'Brussels elite' and to defend the traditional family and
>>>> national sovereignty.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/viktor-orban-announces-his-vision-for-a-stable-europe-that-defends-christian-values/?utm_source=daily-catholic-2024-07-12&utm_medium=email
>>>> [image: Orban-810x500.jpg]
>>>> Thu Jul 11, 2024 - 11:08 am EDT
>>>> (LifeSiteNews <https://www.lifesitenews.com/>) — As Hungary assumed
>>>> <https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/presidency-council-eu/>
>>>> the rotating presidency of the European Union on July 1, self-styled
>>>> “Christian illiberal democracy” leader Viktor Orbán has announced a new
>>>> vision for Europe.
>>>>
>>>> “What Europeans want is three things: peace, order, and development,”
>>>> Orbán said on June 30. “And what they are getting from the elite in
>>>> Brussels today is war, migration, and stagnation.”
>>>>
>>>> Orbán addressed a huge
>>>> <https://x.com/zoltanspox/status/1797273472877412414> pro-peace rally
>>>> earlier in June in Hungary and has called for the return
>>>> <https://x.com/WETHEKINGDQMQ98/status/1766427057687236871> of Donald
>>>> Trump to the U.S. presidency to secure peace in the world. Yet these are
>>>> not values shared by the E.U., nor in the wider liberal-global West.
>>>>
>>>> Ahead of a peace mission to Russia, Orbán said
>>>> <https://x.com/annanemtsova/status/1809553406031257680> “I wish to be
>>>> a tool in God’s hands” to promote an end to the war in Ukraine. On his
>>>> return from Russia, he said
>>>> <https://x.com/dana916/status/1810127318054007267> the search for an
>>>> end to the conflict was “my Christian duty.”
>>>> Western ‘values’
>>>>
>>>> Orbán said
>>>> <https://nationalfile.com/viktor-orban-western-values-mean-three-things-migration-lgbtq-and-war/>
>>>> last summer that “Western values mean three things: LGBTQ, migration, and
>>>> war.”
>>>>
>>>> Now Orbán has embarked on a peace mission to Ukraine, Russia, and
>>>> China, and has launched a new patriotic group to secure “Europe for the
>>>> Europeans.”
>>>>
>>>> Germany’s newspaper of record *Die Welt *reported
>>>> <https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/plus252403322/Viktor-Orban-im-Interview-Mit-Angela-Merkel-waere-es-nie-zu-einer-Invasion-Russlands-gekommen.html>
>>>> on Orbán’s shuttle diplomacy, which has angered E.U. leaders in supplanting
>>>> their firmly pro-war position. According to *Die Welt*, Orbán said, “China
>>>> has a peace plan, America has a war policy, and Europe, instead of having
>>>> its own strategic approach, is simply copying the American position.”
>>>>
>>>> Columbia Professor Jeffrey Sachs described
>>>> <https://x.com/BalazsOrban_HU/status/1810353716824015057> Orbán’s bid
>>>> for peace as a “ray of light.”
>>>>
>>>> “PM Orbán’s peace mission is a ray of light for the world at a time of
>>>> warfare by the U.S. and its European disciples,” he said.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, no good deed goes unpunished. Accordingly, Euronews reports
>>>> <https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/07/09/could-hungarian-pm-orban-face-consequences-for-his-diplomatic-world-tour>
>>>> how “the Hungarian autocrat has popped up in in Kyiv, Moscow, and Beijing
>>>> just as his country takes over the presidency of the Council of the E.U.”
>>>> Outraged by his
>>>> <https://x.com/PM_ViktorOrban/status/1810085572758634995> “peace
>>>> mission 3.0” to China, there is talk of cutting short Hungary’s tenure as
>>>> E.U. president nation.
>>>>
>>>> Why would the pro-war E.U. globalists be offended by Christian duty?
>>>>
>>>> “This is a strategic campaign to ridicule the European Union and to
>>>> show that PM Orbán can make all these uncoordinated moves which are clear
>>>> violations of the E.U.’s common and agreed positions, and does not have to
>>>> fear negative consequences,” Daniel Hegedüs, researcher at the German
>>>> Marshall Fund, told Euronews.
>>>>
>>>> “On the one hand, this expands his future room for maneuver and future
>>>> political autonomy, but on the other hand it seriously undermines the
>>>> perception of E.U. foreign policy among key partners.”
>>>>
>>>> Hegedus’s claim that Orbán’s move makes the European Union seem more
>>>> ridiculous is a difficult position to defend. Its own “common and agreed
>>>> positions” have resulted in economic, political and military instability.
>>>> Orbán described
>>>> <https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/hungarian-premier-blasts-brusselian-bureaucratic-nonsense-on-russia-ukraine-war/3267652>
>>>> these E.U. policies as “bureaucratic nonsense.”
>>>>
>>>> Of course, a fact check from somebody such as E.U. Chief Commissioner
>>>> Ursula von der Leyen’s European Democracy Shield
>>>> <https://x.com/vonderleyen_epp/status/1792569693242352120> would be
>>>> certain to uphold the charge against Orbán’s appeal for sanity and for
>>>> security.
>>>>
>>>> The unelected E.U. head, who has just secured
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/27/ursula-von-der-leyen-wins-second-term-as-european-commission-president>
>>>> a second term in office thanks to her robust
>>>> <https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-military-defense-slimate-second-term/>
>>>> pro-war stance, has recently launched this risibly-named campaign to
>>>> protect E.U. citizens from exactly the kind of Christian values defended by
>>>> Orbán – and the wider reality-based community of European populists.
>>>>
>>>> *READ: Major anti-globalist TV station debanked in Germany and Austria
>>>> <https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/major-anti-globalist-tv-station-debanked-in-austria-and-germany/>*
>>>> Manifesto for a European future
>>>>
>>>> On the eve of the six-month E.U. presidency of Hungary, Orbán announced
>>>> <https://x.com/laszloan/status/1807405638407884848> a new “Patriots
>>>> for Europe” bloc in the European Parliament. This was to combat the “green
>>>> poison” of the “Brussels elite,” which Orbán said was “not a democratic
>>>> construct.”
>>>>
>>>> Orbán has faced down attacks on his “illiberal Christian democracy” by
>>>> the globalist-liberal E.U. since
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdjYp2YtQL4> 2013.
>>>>
>>>> In his June 30 address, he stated that it was the duty of the three
>>>> main parties of Hungary, Austria, and the Czech Republic to “stop illegal
>>>> migration, advocate the traditional family,” and “defend national
>>>> sovereignty.”
>>>>
>>>> “We believe that this is the day when the change in European politics
>>>> begins,” Orbán said, introducing a new politics for the future.
>>>>
>>>> The manifesto of Patriots for Europe states that Europe is at a
>>>> “turning point.”
>>>>
>>>> … the nations of Europe have arrived at a historic turning point. The
>>>> European Union, once a dream project rooted in a desire for reconciliation
>>>> after the devastation caused by two world wars and decades of division, has
>>>> turned against Europeans and now represents interests that are at odds with
>>>> the will of nations, regions and the small communities that make up our
>>>> European homeland.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, Orbán’s Fidesz party announced
>>>> <https://x.com/FideszEP/status/1810409608894087564> the Patriots for
>>>> Europe bloc now had 84 E.U. members of parliament (MEPs) from 12 nations.
>>>> Jordan Bardella, MEP and head of the French National Rally in the European
>>>> Parliament, has been appointed leader of the group.
>>>>
>>>> German outlet *Die Welt* reported that, in response, left-wingers and
>>>> greens have combined
>>>> <https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article252423224/EU-Parlament-Sozialdemokraten-und-Gruene-fordern-Brandmauer-gegen-neue-Rechtsaussen-Fraktion.html>
>>>> to form a “firewall” to shut out the politics of Christian sanity from the
>>>> E.U.
>>>>
>>>> These developments come alongside an attempt at serious diplomacy which
>>>> has humiliated the E.U., whose diplomats and liberal leaders remain
>>>> steadfastly committed
>>>> <https://www.politico.eu/article/viktor-orban-hungary-council-of-the-eu-presidency-vladimir-putin-russia-volodymyr-zelenskyy-ukraine/>
>>>> to prolonging – and even escalating – the war in Ukraine.
>>>>
>>>> It is clear that a politically paralyzed Europe can now no longer
>>>> ignore Orbán calling out the sanophobia and normophobia of
>>>> liberal-globalist politics. Pro-war E.U. globalists have raged
>>>> <https://www.politico.eu/article/viktor-orban-hungary-council-of-the-eu-presidency-vladimir-putin-russia-volodymyr-zelenskyy-ukraine/>
>>>> at Orbán’s peace mission, and his call
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/30/make-europe-great-again-hungary-sets-scene-eu-presidency>
>>>> to “Make Europe Great Again.”
>>>> Eurocrats on Xanax?
>>>>
>>>> Now Orbán’s dedication to replacing the machinery of death with that of
>>>> life is driving some liberal Eurocrats to drugs.
>>>>
>>>> “I take pills to calm myself when I talk about this issue because it’s
>>>> getting really ridiculous,” said a senior E.U. diplomat according to the
>>>> U.K.’s *Guardian
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/30/make-europe-great-again-hungary-sets-scene-eu-presidency>.
>>>> *“At every turn of the road you see the Hungarians hampering Ukraine’s
>>>> ability to fight an aggressor.”
>>>>
>>>> The pill-induced coping was accompanied
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/30/make-europe-great-again-hungary-sets-scene-eu-presidency>
>>>> by much seething.
>>>>
>>>> At a meeting of foreign affairs ministers last month [June],
>>>> frustrations boiled over when ministers confronted their
>>>> Kremlin-decorated
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/31/viktor-orban-hungarian-pm-vladimir-putin-moscow-russia-visit> counterpart,
>>>> Péter Szijjártó, over Hungary’s obstruction.
>>>>
>>>> ‘Almost all our decisions and needed discussions are being blocked by
>>>> one country,’ said Lithuania’s foreign minister, Gabrielius Landsbergis,
>>>> who accused Budapest of a ‘systematic approach towards any efforts by the
>>>> E.U. to have any meaningful role in foreign affairs.’
>>>>
>>>> It is a staple of history that German-Russian relations decide the
>>>> relative security of Europe. In seeking to characterize any attempt to
>>>> normalize relations with Russia as treason, these liberals are making
>>>> permanent instability a matter not only of policy – but also of honor.
>>>> Hungary is to be applauded for keeping these people out of foreign affairs.
>>>>
>>>> *READ: Christian persecution continues in Gaza as death toll climbs
>>>> <https://www.lifesitenews.com/analysis/christian-persecution-continues-in-gaza-as-death-toll-climbs/>*
>>>> ‘Blockmail’
>>>>
>>>> Accordingly, the liberals have done much to lock down the Hungarian
>>>> Christian menace.
>>>>
>>>> The E.U. has blocked
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/05/eu-must-not-appease-viktor-orban-by-unfreezing-billions-earmarked-for-hungary>
>>>> 27 billion euros from reaching Orbán’s Hungary. The “unfreezing” of some 10
>>>> billion in January 2024 led to outrage
>>>> <https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20240112IPR16780/the-hungarian-government-threatens-eu-values-institutions-and-funds-meps-say>
>>>> in the European Parliament, which sued
>>>> <https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/03/14/european-parliament-sues-commission-over-the-release-of-102-billion-in-frozen-funds-to-hun>
>>>> the E.U. Commission for doing so. The funds were released to secure
>>>> Hungarian support
>>>> <https://www.politico.eu/article/commission-unblocks-e10-2-billion-for-hungary-as-eu-tries-to-sway-viktor-orban-on-ukraine/>
>>>> for financing the Ukraine war, with a further
>>>> <https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-leaders-seek-deal-fund-ukraine-hungary-digs-heels-2024-02-01/>
>>>> $54 billion sent to Volodymyr Zelensky in February.
>>>>
>>>> Up to 19 billion euros in E.U. funding remains frozen over the
>>>> Hungarian government’s refusal
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/15/hungary-passes-law-banning-lbgt-content-in-schools>
>>>> to repeal “anti-LGBT” child protection laws, and open its well-policed
>>>> borders.
>>>>
>>>> Orbán’s Fidesz is pro-family, not pro-rainbow. You can have one or the
>>>> other, and Orbán has chosen to defend and strengthen the family. This is
>>>> the main reason funds have been frozen to Hungary. A secret E.U. plan to
>>>> “sabotage the Hungarian economy” was reported
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/29/secret-eu-plan-to-sabotage-hungarian-economy-revealed-as-anger-mounts-at-orban>
>>>> in January 2024. Yet E.U. hatred of the Hungarian model has a long history.
>>>> Why the E.U. hates Orbán
>>>>
>>>> In 2017, a member of Orbán’s party told
>>>> <https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/10/whos-afraid-of-george-soros/>
>>>> the Hungarian Parliament it was their “Christian duty to fight against the
>>>> Soros/Satan plan.” Soros’ Open Society Foundations were effectively
>>>> expelled from Hungary following a June 2018 “Stop Soros” law
>>>> <https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2021/11/16/hungary-move-to-criminalise-support-of-asylum-seekers-infringes-eu-law>,
>>>> which saw the OSF University
>>>> <https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hungary-soros-ceu-move/soros-founded-school-says-forced-out-of-hungary-on-dark-day-for-europe-idUSKBN1O218Z/>
>>>> close down.
>>>>
>>>> Orbán’s announcement
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/07/viktor-orban-hungary-preserve-christian-culture>
>>>> in 2018 that he seeks to establish an “illiberal Christian democracy” in
>>>> Hungary was met with horror by the E.U.
>>>>
>>>> As the E.U. moved to freeze Hungary’s funding in December 2019, Zoltan
>>>> Kovacs said the E.U. was dancing to the tune of the “Soros orchestra” in
>>>> doing so.
>>>>
>>>> Kovacs, who is the Hungarian government’s international spokesman, also
>>>> correctly predicted the process was designed never to end.
>>>>
>>>> Five years later, 19 billion euros earmarked for Hungary remain
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/30/make-europe-great-again-hungary-sets-scene-eu-presidency>
>>>> frozen by the E.U.
>>>> The price of peace and family values
>>>>
>>>> Five years later, 19 billion euros earmarked for Hungary remain
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/30/make-europe-great-again-hungary-sets-scene-eu-presidency>
>>>> frozen by the E.U.
>>>> The price of peace and family values
>>>>
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